Hey Peterpan, when you make an oven to cure CF do you need to have some sort of vent holes in it? Will the fumes combust or anything? I have only played with carbon fiber wet and let it cure through outside temp. I have been making a couple of joints for experimentation. It wwon't be much longer before I make a frame but I am trying to learn as much as possible beforehand. Do you think laying up wet carbon will make an adequate road frame or do you need to use vacuum bags, ovens, etc to get a quality frame. The joints that I have made so far seem pretty strong and they only have about 4 layers of cloth around them. I have been laying them up and then wrapping electrical tape around them that has holes punched in it to allow excess resin to escape. Somebody's trick that I saw online and it works fairly well. Have you seen the Cyfac video's on youtube?