How bout touring bikes?
How bout touring frames? I just looked at the Fuji Touring which another LBS here was pushing. Would it be significantly less zippy? The shop that carries Surly said the distributer wont have a cross check until the end of the month. They also said the price went up to 1150 which is getting past what I can pay right now and they said there is no room for negotiating. The Fuji Touring is 950.