Chucks are just a little cooler than daves,lol. I'm a disabled vet that was lossing my mind trying to figure out a way to get back in shape and get that high of digging deep for every breath. I live in blossom valley and every weekend I see these people riding bikes & thought I should give it a chance. I had to modify (raise) my handlebars as high as possible due to back injuries. I agree climbing is the best. Does anyone know where I could find a safe rout to the beach from blossom valley/north east El Cajon? Thanks!