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Originally Posted by grapetonix
... compared, to, say, a cheap MTB. I know it must be very hard to generalize, but perhaps someone has an idea.

It in fact looks like this. I'm thinking of taking the train from Stockholm, Sweden to Oslo, Norway where nice nature scenery (highlands/mountains) are at a far more accessible distance. Thus I need a foldable bike, which I guess in its dismantled state is small enough to take with you on the regular train.

From there, the plan is to make a tour into the mountains, perhaps lasting for a week or slightly longer.

I can do 80-100km rides on my cheap 26" MTB at a fairly fast pace feeling only slightly to moderately tired afterwards. But this is on nearly flat roads.

So my questions are

- does it sound insane to do a semi-serious distance (around 400km), perhaps 70 of them will be through seriously hilly up-down-up-down-hundreds-of-meters terrain (albeit paved roads), on a moderately efficient 20" folding bike?

- What makes do you recommend? Preferably sub-$400. Or, prices aside, what FEATURES do you recommend? Given the primary use I write above, should I look for derailleur based transmission or hub, etc. I know that derailleurs are more efficient but something just tells me they would struggle a lot on a folding bike. Am I wrong? Really want a bike which has a fairly low chance of serious near-irreparible breakdown.

If I decide to do this trip, it will probably be wise to do it next summer so I get the chance to conform myself mentally(?) and physically to any folding bike I decide to eventually buy.

All input appreciated
//Tobias

Tobias,

I had a Peugot folder as a teenager (in the 1980's) that was probably built in 1965. It was a tank, heavy, slow, internally geared hub.

Since then, I've owned several non-folding bikes - all road bikes, some real rocket ships.

Folding bikes have come a LONG way and I recently bought a 20" wheel KHS Westwood because I no longer have the space for a full size bike. (and I travel a lot)

I wouldn't hesitate to do 1,000km (one thousand kilometers) on a folding bike.

Ulrich summed up the biggest concerns. Avoid an internally geared hub. Derailleurs are easily serviced, durable and inexpensive.

Buy a bike that fits you well. Test ride anything you're considering buying.
Put good touring tires on and make sure you have a well designed drive train geared for your intended purpose. Schwalbe Marathon tires are excellent and offer low rolling resistance in sizes to fit folders. (20x1.5")

Dahon makes a number of 20" wheel models that are highly customizable - adjustable handlebar and seat height, brazons for racks etc. I test rode a couple and was impressed. Also tested the Giant Halfway, a couple of Giatex and the KHS.

http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/bike/KHS.html

See these links for some pics of different folders:
http://nordicgroup.us/fold/
http://www.atob.org.uk/Buyers'_Guide.html

In your price range, I strongly recommend the Dahon line. They have a lot to choose from and excellent support.

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