Originally Posted by hhnngg1

I rest my case. You start a 30 mile loop, you want your average speed, you include every last second of it. Stoplights, water breaks, biobreaks, they all count in the total.

I have a local loop here in Norcal, and there are 11 minutes of lights per hour on average on this loop when I look at the stoppage time, and this isn't even urban riding. Id be joking myself if I thought I could routinely ride a solo 24mph for an hour based upon that average speed given the 11 mins of stoppage time.

I've seen even more egregious cases where riders here say they've average like 22mph solo for a organized century ride, and they're not even competitive roadies. Turns out they stop the clock for all lights, all stopsigns, all slowing to <10mph when there's a pack, stopped for an HOUR+ for lunch, stopped for another HOUR+ for 3 feed stops. You gotta be friggin' kidding me.