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Old 09-05-12, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mobile 155
You can eat a meal at Mickey Ds and it will fill you up. You can also eat a Meal at Spagos in LA and it will fill you up. One will cost you more and one you will enjoy more.
This is a false dilemma. It's not a choice between McDonalds and Spago.

We'd have to look at the actual costs. A meal at Spago might be as expensive as multiple meals at some other very-good restaurant that isn't as "fashionable". That is, it's quite possible that one could get more enjoyment at going to some high-quality place other than Spago. (It's quite possible that one reason people go to Spago is to brag about it. There is nothing that establishes that one has to spend that sort of money to get the same level of quality.)

Things like Spago are really targeting people who have money to burn (the wealthy). For people of more limited means, there are, almost certainly, more effective ways to spend that money (ways that would provide much more enjoyment for the cost).

Originally Posted by Mobile 155
I think many cyclists spend money on what they value. If it is light weight it might be carbon fiber if it is traditional it might be steel.
People are free to spend money on whatever they want. That, though, doesn't really mean there's a rational reason behind it.

Originally Posted by Mobile 155
If we feel it makes a difference then in most cases it makes a difference.
As a general principle, this is false since typically people are poor judges of what "makes a difference".

Originally Posted by Mobile 155
SRAM Red shifts better than SRAM Apex. If you count smoothness as better. Dura Ace does better or is smoother than 105s. Those that have had both realize this and that is often why they pay more. CF forks have been used to smooth out Steel, Aluminum and Titainium bikes and those that convert to them seem to agree.
You are ignoring the cost. A rational decision is based on benefit and cost. If you are wealthy, then cost really doesn't matter but, I'd guess that most people here are not wealthy. It would be unfortunate if people thought that spending money on Red and Dura Ace was necessary (it isn't). And, of course, 105 is very good (Dura Ace might be better but it's only a bit better for a lot more money).

Originally Posted by Mobile 155
Does style count or is style not important in any facit of someone's life?
Some people buy things for style (it's their choice!) but too-commonly rationalize their purchase by arguing that they get unrealistic performance benefits. It's the rationalization that is bad (it's dishonest and leads to other people being misinformed).

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