Hi guys,
Thanks so much for the replies, this is a great forum full of really kind and helpful people. I'm starting to look into the Jamis and Salsa bikes. The Salsa Casserole sds delicious, but I don't know why I feel that the Sojourn is just so much better looking, aesthetics have some impact on my decision.
Other than that, speed is not important for me, I hv a motorcycle for spd. And the idea of touring is alluring, but I do wonder if I'd ever seriously tour for more than a weekend. Also, by gravel trails...sry I meant packed gravel--no off-roading.
So now, I'm wondering if I should just get a Dutch bike where the geometry would be most relaxed, but they are about 15lbs heavier than the Sojourn and wouldn't have the low gearing. Also, would they be as suitable as a touring bike for 2-4 hr rides? I really am a bit puzzled by the weight issue.