Originally Posted by
hagen2456
much snipped
I also remember seeing how VC-style left turns killed two people right in front of me.
Hagen, you have repeatedly referred to the events above, as justification for opposing VC cycling. Presumably, you had a good look at the collisions as they were occurring. Well, then, please describe to us, for each of these two collisions, the movements of the two parties, including the traffic errors that caused the collisions.