At the end of September I put a Brooks B17 on the Black Knight bike and reported that it was already the most comfortable saddle I had ever ridden. Now I have several hundred miles on it and have to say that after "break-in" it is easily the best saddle I've ever had. There is never any pain or discomfort. What is interesting is that even though broken in and cushy, it still feels hard to the touch. Trac is a happy camper!