Originally Posted by 99Klein

Kops is a decent starting point. Nothing more. I've been setup in front and behind (always in couples) trying to find where I make the most power. The two things that cause me knee pain are always seat too low and cleat alignment. I ride with a serious ex-pro and he is way in front of the spindle. I myself am a bit behind it.

Learned 20 years ago with my wife, the have their own preferences and, well that's another topic.