Originally Posted by adrapp

I've built two frames with the MAP/Oxy set up. One lugged silver brazed and the other fillet brazed. You really burn through the oxygen and it takes a long time to get things hot enough especially fillet brazing. The silver brazed lugged frame was better suited to the Map/Oxy. The fillet brazed frame was very hard to heat and in the end some of my joints were inadequate, aka I ripped the headtube off two days ago after overshooting a jump! It hurt and now I wait until I can pony up for a small oxy/acetylene torch before tackling another fillet brazed frame. The lugged frame is still going strong after 1 1/2 years of commuting and occasional trail riding. It is a lugged 1 1/8" HT. I got the lug kit from Nova cycle supplies. I think there were more than 1 choice for 1 1/8 lugs there.