Originally Posted by
indyfabz
Actually, I am a 4%-er who works in private industry and who can't stand Nutter. Sorry to shatter your delusions.
One of us suggested that the mere presence of an inanimate object turns suburbanites into homicidal maniacs. The other suggested that concealed carry in crime-prone areas is a good idea (and it was an opinion, to be taken or left).
Which of the two statements qualifies as deluded?
Also - my empirical observation has been that there are quite a few in the top four percent who support this current mayor. He's only been a slight improvement over his corrupt predecessor.
The simple fact of the matter is that your chances of becoming a victim of violent crime are very slight unless you are involved in crime yourself.
What do the current violent crime statistics for Philadelphia suggest?
What do these empirical examples suggest about cycling in the city?
http://articles.philly.com/2009-09-0...mob-scene-hood
http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-1...-black-eye-emt
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Yo..._S_Philly.html
The victims don't appear to have been criminals, and the neighborhoods don't appear to have been particularly grungy.
Philadelphia, like any large US city, has its share of miscreants running around. It's inevitable anyplace large quantities of idle ne'er-do-wells congregate for government entitlements. Happens in Reading, too, as that first link I posted attests.
Finally, look above your head. That thing passing over you is my point about the road rage incident.
No, I understood your point. I just found it to be knee-jerked and cliched.
When was the last time a suburbanite came into the city to shoot the place up?
Most of the violence is home-grown. As is most of the road-rage - which you seem to think never happens in Philadelphia.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=9169596
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=9043248
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=8981770
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=8770014
Please stay where you are. I and others in the city don't want your kind here.
That's been Mayor Nutter's approach as well. It's why me and "my kind" spend our cash elsewhere.
P.S. Where did I say it was irrational to carry? I didn't.
You said I was spreading irrational fear. I said that concealed carry was a perfectly rational response to crime, which Philadelphia and Reading have problems with. Your response to that was a cliche based on irrational fear you have of legal gun ownership.
I thought hipsters were masters of irony.
I said that your obvious belief that the average, law-abiding citizen is likely to be a victim of violent crime is simply not supported by facts.
Perhaps you'd care to post some of those facts, then.
Your fear and anger clearly interfere with your reading and reasoning capabilities.
No, rather, you're the one projecting your own irrational fears and anger onto me. I only stated that concealed carry on bicycle was a rational choice for those cycling in the city, due to its high rate of violent crime (which I posited proof of).
If you have "accurate information" or "sound advice", perhaps you ought to post it openly.