Old 11-19-13, 02:16 AM
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turbo1889
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Let me provide a few google road-view links to spots on roads that I have actually all ridden on a bicycle where I absolutely rid "IN the lane" and "take the lane" riding full VC style. These are all high speed roadways where cars are moving at high speed significantly faster then me. Some of the spots are specific to spots that I remember are bad spots that I knew where to find on google in short order (if your really want to get to know a road then bike it) others are shots that just generally show how that road is (as in it isn't just a bad shot that is how that road is for miles upon miles upon miles).

Take a look at them:

https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.11...,51.04,,0,11.8
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.38...,,0,10.87&z=13
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.54...6,,0,1.55&z=14
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.67...6,,0,8.04&z=14
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.99...,,0,11.33&z=15
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.09...4,,0,4.02&z=15
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.04...1,,0,9.14&z=11
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.83...,,0,19.19&z=13
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.90...1,,0,12.7&z=11
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.76...,,0,15.53&z=11
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.69...,,0,12.06&z=14
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.34...,,0,20.38&z=10
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.74...,,0,12.61&z=14
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.90...,,0,14.25&z=11
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.18...,,0,12.79&z=14
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.49...,,0,10.87&z=11
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.97...,,0,10.14&z=13
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.11...2,,0,6.58&z=15
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=48.26...,,0,23.21&z=13



Now after you have seen those roads. Let me clearly state I have been harassed by law enforcement and dragged into court for daring to ride on those roads and take the lane to stay alive. Heck a couple times I've been harassed just for riding on them period as in specifically told in no uncertain terms that if I continued to ride on that road they would lock me up for it. That's not a joke, been told that directly to my face verbatim.

I don't take that kind of @%&@%&%@% lying down. I fight back.

But, at the same time, let me also clearly say that I would much prefer that those roads had nice wide shoulder edges with decent pavement to ride on instead. That group of links above are high speed roads that I as a cyclist would prefer not to ride "IN the road" and "take the lane" and ride VC style. I do so out of necessity and would prefer a better option. I will not, however, be bullied into not using such roads as is my right just because some vicious abusive violent motorists demand that I surrender my right to save them the few moments it takes to pass safely while operating a motor vehicle which is a privilege not a right.




Now as to roads I ride "IN the road" and "take the lane" and ride VC style and that is how I prefer to ride and feel there is no need for bicycle specific infrastructure or at least decent width and condition shoulder edges those are mainly low-speed in-town roads where I'm going almost as fast, just as fast, or even faster then the cars. If desired I can provide links to some google street-views for that as well. I can also provide multiple links of roads with what I consider suitable shoulder edges where I am more then happy to ride "OUT of the road" and "edge ride" specifically riding on the shoulder edge to the right of the white line completely out of the main traffic lanes.

And, yes, I have been harassed by both private motorists and law enforcement for riding VC in-town on the slow speed roads and, yes, even for edge riding on the shoulder edge. It is true that I was harassed only once by law enforcement for edge riding on the shoulder edge namely by a Lake County sheriff deputy who thought I shouldn't even be riding there and it never ended up in court on that one. But I've had numerous incidents where I was harassed or attacked by private motorists while edge riding even deliberately run off the shoulder edge and into the ditch by motorists who had to cross multiple lanes of traffic to get at me and move onto the shoulder edge horn blaring to run me off of it and then even swung around for another run at me after I rode back up out of the ditch and back onto the shoulder edge and they have refused to do anything about it. So even edge riding completely out of the main traffic lanes and on the shoulder edge to the right of the white line motorists will still harass and attack you and law enforcement will still do nothing about it and just tell you to stay off the roads.

I've been fighting this for decades in this state in and out of court and over time I'm making progress as are others. The tide is starting to turn but that doesn't excuse what has gone on in the past and what continues to go on when they think they can get away with it.
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