Originally Posted by Greg M

I picked up the shimano mw80's this year and with a pair of costco wool socks my feet are toasty down to 25F so far. And that is with poor circulation in hands and feet. Rule #1 has always been cold feet put on a hat. Also warm core helps with warm extremities. And the shoes are highly water resistant. Probably closest to water-proof without actually claiming to be water-proof.