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Old 12-30-13, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
I checked long ago. What is 612 & what is so great about it? You can state for a fact that it is that much better than good ol' 4130, natch? What about an integrated seat clamp is so superior to a separate seatpost collar? Those cutesy cutout trackends must account for the higher price, right? Does room for bigger tires on a trackish bike mean much? If so, Big Block claims room for only 32c, Surly says Steamroller fits 38. Hmmm...

But as someone else just posted
My $300 BD complete bike is made from Chinese 4130, has a plain set collar clamp and plain dropouts. Can you tell me the Steamroller is that much better ? You can buy a complete Kilo WT, which is a clone of the Steamroller geometry for less than a Steamroller frameset. It's all a matter of value, and relative to what it offers I just think the Steamroller is overpriced. When you can buy a Wabi Classic for $750 with a custom setup that is $70 less than a complete Steamroller, then its hard to justify the Steamroller pricing.

As to my intruding into your Steamroller superthread, I wouldn't have done so except for the asinine remark in the Surly advert dissing people who buy stuff that is better.
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