I see... but brands like thorn and tout terrain are not available in hungary.You said that cross bikes are a joke. I don't know what do you mean by cross, the cross-trekking or the cylcocross which is similar to a road bike. I understand that it's a new fashion but I've seen a lot of forums where people said they made month long trips very comfortable with (for example a Specialized tricross) cyclocross bycicles. The other one the Revolt 2 is a "grind gravel" ( that's a laugh) it's unique and a mix of everything.... but does it mean it's a bad one?Or you just dislike the whole category?