Originally Posted by The B

I've never felt like calorie counters were accurate enough to say, and I've also found that even if I run pretty huge deficits, I still don't lose weight. Given that I ride a LOT, as well as hike, climb, and run, I've given up on the whole bull**** caloric expenditure science in general. My belly fat absolutely defies all natural laws, therefor they must be bull****.

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