Howdy datsme40. This is a good site, there's lots to learn here. I've never ridden with the in-town groups. I get most of my miles on the commute, and like the sci guy says I ride a few favorite trails and paths. The closest thing to group rides for me are the numerous charity or t-shirt rides. I've signed up for quite a few of them this year. Maybe one evening this summer I'll ride up to Bike Barn and tag along with them.