yes yes I understand
i was just trying to reinforce your point.
my commuter is "too big" for me. it's a 62cm c-c traditional geometry frame. I have short legs for my height, so for satndover, i should really be riding a 57. Unfortunately a 57 would have waaaaaay to short a reach.
I have 0 standover barefoot. and mabye 1cm or so with shoes on.
I have yet to sack myself with the TT.