The Touring can generate routes based on reducing elevation and can generate loop routes based on distance. That's what I mean by "funky". I haven't tried using these options, so, I don't know how well they work.
REI's policies should not be dependent on what state you live in. They sell stuff to people from across the country (that doesn't mean it will be convenient).
People who have problems often make the most noise. That makes it hard to have an idea about how common the problems they describe are.
I suspect that people's expectations are too high (not quite realistic). It appears that quite a lot of 800/810 users don't use the navigation features at all. The devices are a bit confusing to use and there aren't any great sources to learn how to use them.
Last edited by njkayaker; 09-30-14 at 12:04 AM.