Thanx Guys...
You are the kind of people that make this forum great.
Often when newbies ask what sometimes seem kind of lame questions they get chewed up and spat out by the experienced guys.
This doesn't happen here which is very encouraging to those of us who are looking at extending their cycling and just want to be like you guys.
Thanx all for your input... hope to see you on Kiwi roads sometime... well not actually on the roads like possums, those flat animals that live on NZ roads.