did you put the money down already? I met with him this weekend too, but won't be able to put the downpayment till after new years. Damn, was hoping I can beat you in line. I'm gonna get pretty much the same thing as you but def designed for 23's since I'll probably run smaller tires than that. I want to ask him for long sheng lugs but def with the paul dropouts. Hopefully we'll both be getting frames in April, just in time for track season.