TNX Bill. I wasn't planning to spend this kind of money, but I'm looking pretty seriously at the Pilot 2.1 s.p.a. which has the Shimano 105 STI 10 speed and Ultegra derailleurs. I think this will be the one I test ride first anyway. I could go with the standard 2.1 but for a couple hundred more, you get quite a bit. Funny how I learned a whole new language in a week of research and added $1000 to the price of what I may buy. I really do want to get it right the first time however.