btw speaking of charity rides & training rides for the T.O. - Montreal ride, here's one that's both;
GIRO T.O.
Looks like it'll be a lot of fun, rest stops every 7-10k & a short loop if you don't have all day. I'ma be ride marshall, I guess they have a need for slow ass crippled ride marshalls to shepherd the children & such. I may wimp out and serve food at a checkpoint, have to ask my knee closer to the day.