No offense Chris L but winter riding on the gold coast and winter riding in other parts of this great land of ours (like the southern island of Tassie) is like the difference between being a little bit toasty and bordering on hypothermic. The only time it gets below 4C in Surfers is when you jump into a walk in fridge. We scored a 1C start two mornings ago (got up to 4C about 9.00 am) - that is winter riding southern oz style.