another vote for the rockhopper comp disc. i've had my 2005 for about 8 months and its been perfect for what i ride and my level of riding. its not the lightest bike in the world, but i'm 210lbs, so i'm not looking for that. the tires that came with mine are decent, some traction issues but no flats. the pedals are junk, get some with pins. the fork that came with it was a manitou splice comp which is entry level at best, but better than full rigid. the rims have held up well and the saddle has been fine. if i had to do it over again i would not hesitate to buy it again.