Originally Posted by lymbzero
Try that with some 700c mavics on new continetal tires.. GOOD F*ing LUCK!
I had some Contis on Open 4/cds back in 1995 or so. They were so loose, that when I got a flat in the rain, I couldn't keep the bead seated. I had to ride home gingerly on about 45psi because there wasn't enough bead friction when wet to keep the thing together. When dry, I could deflate and literally shake the tire off the rim.
Then again, that same year, I had a friend with some Mavic 117 MTB wheels, and conti knobbies, and they were so tight that he had to carry around motorcycle levers. 8" long steel ones! I challenged him one time without levers, and I couldn't even get close.
You never know what you'll end up with. I'd like to buy all these companies a ruler from the same manufacturer if they'd use it.