lets not take this to a urinating contest.we all have quirks and dislikes.mt biking rocks .we can disagree,get out to the mud and dirt and it ALL seems not to matter so much.kicking bootey is what matters not who has theCORRECT brandof whatever.this is a cool place to get info and rant and rave and hoot and holler and compare and just whatever about our favorite sport to be in.Bike Forums is COOL