I really like the Performance's Elite bib shorts... I only weigh 165lbs though and the pad is thinner than some others that I've had. I think a good fit is more important than the thickness of the pad. I have a pair of adidas that cost 3 times the price, much thicker pad, and they don't perform near as well as the performance elite. On the downside I was just at the performace website and they don't have any for sale except the smalls. I have a 30" waist and I couldn't fit into them.