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Would you race if there were no payouts?

Old 05-01-15, 06:34 PM
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lol mengoni
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Would I still race? Undoubtedly. Would I still pay $50 per. event? No, thanks. I'd rather do alleycats.
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...agreed. No $50. I want to go opposite of "big". I want to do low entry fee ($5'ish), donated prizes, and try to keep longevity in mind. Open books so that racers can see income/expenses, and also they can have input on what goes on...
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This makes it kind of the Thurs night world championships - with insurance. As a few of us have spent time in the hospital from those - might be a good deal. Locally we have the Tue/Thurs races at the Great Park (Irvine, CA) and Eldorado Park (Long Beach) and a bunch of guys do those and never race on the weekends. "Eldo" has been around since the 80s. Coach say the mid-week group rides are too fast for serious weekend racers.
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I only know of Mengoni because a college roommate raced and won nat'ls with them on the track in 97 and he was a west coaster ... I neither cared for or participated in cycling then
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Thought a bit more about this...
Once a rider knows their limitations - relative ability, there is not a big reason to race other than money. Before that it is as simple as two kids in the playground challenging each other to a race.

Most are the latter.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Thought a bit more about this...
Once a rider knows their limitations - relative ability, there is not a big reason to race other than money.
I would take your argument a few steps further and say that there's really no reason to do anything at all ever.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Thought a bit more about this...
Once a rider knows their limitations - relative ability, there is not a big reason to race other than money.

is this a new high bar for wrongness in the 33?
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Originally Posted by Doge
This makes it kind of the Thurs night world championships - with insurance. As a few of us have spent time in the hospital from those - might be a good deal. Locally we have the Tue/Thurs races at the Great Park (Irvine, CA) and Eldorado Park (Long Beach) and a bunch of guys do those and never race on the weekends. "Eldo" has been around since the 80s. Coach say the mid-week group rides are too fast for serious weekend racers.
Do you mean GP and Eldo are faster or just the local group rides? I find our Tue / Thurs rides are faster than USAC races, but I'm just a 4. I would much rather race officially if we could. GP and ElDo are about a 2 hour drive for me, and I do hope to make it out to some this summer. Because the commute and race are a 6 hour commitment, during the work week its not something I'm willing to do unless I can win it.
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Old 05-01-15, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
is this a new high bar for wrongness in the 33?
It's impressive really.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
is this a new high bar for wrongness in the 33?
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... Or read post #6
reading is overrated
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
Do you mean GP and Eldo are faster or just the local group rides? I find our Tue / Thurs rides are faster than USAC races, but I'm just a 4. I would much rather race officially if we could. GP and ElDo are about a 2 hour drive for me, and I do hope to make it out to some this summer. Because the commute and race are a 6 hour commitment, during the work week its not something I'm willing to do unless I can win it.
I expect they may be, but that was not what I meant. Any group rides mid-week are normally considered too fast (for training) - which is why he doesn't do Bud's ride. I've posted that in the training forum.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
is this a new high bar for wrongness in the 33?
An interesting poll would be:
"Do you know your limitations?" - from a racing perspective.

My post may be "wrong" but I think its right on point for the thread. The OP is polling a bunch of people that do not get paid to post about cycling if they would also race without getting paid.

I would guess the OP is getting their information from multiple sources too.

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You have a pretty wide definition of "paid". The poll was aimed at amateurs that have won money. Would they still race if there was no money to win. The answers have been pretty clear.
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Originally Posted by Doge
An interesting poll would be:
"Do you know your limitations?" - from a racing perspective.

My post may be "wrong" but I think its right on point for the thread. The OP is polling a bunch of people that do not get paid to post about cycling if they would also race without getting paid.

I would guess the OP is getting their information from multiple sources too.


Would you do a race without a payout is a different question than would you race without getting paid.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
lol mengoni
shrug. I don't get it.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Thought a bit more about this...
Once a rider knows their limitations - relative ability, there is not a big reason to race other than money.
I also quit reading once I had a firm grasp of the words. I mean, once you know what words mean, what's the point really?
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red/dit you ninny
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I really hope doge's kid wins the tour de france.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
I also quit reading once I had a firm grasp of the words. I mean, once you know what words mean, what's the point really?

Especially if you're not getting paid to read.

Actually "getting paid to read" describes probably half of the jobs in the US.
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Thank you for the responses. I also have this on Facebook locally and there are ~30 responses there (100% say $ doesn't matter). Interesting that payouts are listed on most races. Maybe change it up, offer your reg-fee back, reinvest, etc.
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All I want is the podium pic, so I can post it on Facebook.
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All I want is to upgrade and win. Someday I'll get to cat 1 and then it'll be all about winning. Don't give 2 turds about the winnings, I spend more in a month of racing/training/eating/bike stuff then I'll ever win in a lifetime.
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Originally Posted by Doge
Thought a bit more about this...
Once a rider knows their limitations - relative ability, there is not a big reason to race other than money. Before that it is as simple as two kids in the playground challenging each other to a race.

Most are the latter.
Not really, once a rider "knows" these things. More when a rider achieves them. And I feel like I could race a looong looong time and continue to improve, just perhaps not physically.
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