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    Crashed, and now I have a question...

    It was only a matter of time, I started racing last spring (learned tons by lurking on this forum and posting questions here and there, you guys are great), upgraded to Cat-4 to start this year, and amazingly things clicked a bit and earned my last upgrade points for Cat-3 a couple weeks ago.

    As I was driving to yesterday's crit I thought to myself that I've finally crossed the mental threshold and my main thoughts when getting ready to race involve figuring out how I'm going to do well versus worrying about crashing or any other stupid thing.

    Well, my front tire flatted right as I went into a hard corner 20 minutes in and I was sliding on pavement before I even had time to think. Wasn't super fun, but I'm fine. Some nasty road rash on the shoulder and hip...so brings me to the question. Reading online, there are a million theories...open to air, open to air with ointment, sealed with Tegaderm, etc, sealed with non-stick bandage.

    I know I could search and I have, but anyone care to give experience as to what method has worked best to clear this stuff up the quickest/easiest?

    Thanks.

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    There's a sticky dedicated to this very topic: I crashed (road rash question)

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    it's as sticky as your wounds and will last as long as the scars

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    Haha...and almost the exact same title. I can't believe I didn't notice it up there.

    Despite the giant patches on my hip and especially shoulder, you know what the worst is? I was wearing full finger gloves as always recommended here by CDR...despite that, I ground right through the gloves and into my finger tips. Typing this is a real pain in the fingers! Ha!

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    I don't quite understand how fingertips hit pavement.Stickys are long and difficult to read all the way through. Easy answer is always tegaderm for gooey/large/bad areas. The smaller spots I just leave to open air. You may have to change tegaderm daily for the first few days, but it's a quick painless process. Don't make my first mistake of trying the so-called "non stick" pads haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by AERO63 View Post
    Haha...and almost the exact same title. I can't believe I didn't notice it up there.

    Despite the giant patches on my hip and especially shoulder, you know what the worst is? I was wearing full finger gloves as always recommended here by CDR...despite that, I ground right through the gloves and into my finger tips. Typing this is a real pain in the fingers! Ha!
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    Unfortunately I have recent experience with this.

    Everyone talks about tegaderm, but I just used basic **** from CVS. They have mineral oil-soaked pads you can put on the wound, and they don't really stick.

    I wounded one fingertip in my most recent crash, and crashed my thumbnail, but that's all healed now, no biggie. Good to hear the gloves didn't help - I was planning on doing that from now on but now I'm rethinking this..

    Anyway just be patient and the skin will heal. Bones take a bit longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Everyone talks about tegaderm, but I just used basic **** from CVS. They have mineral oil-soaked pads you can put on the wound, and they don't really stick.
    I'm not a big fan of tegaderm either. Non-stick pads won't stick if you put on enough neo/polysporin and change them frequently.

    OP keep the wound moist unless it's a very small spot, scabs are generally bad.

    mattm don't badmouth stuff you can get from a pharmacy. In the land of "free" health care the stuff the gov't will reimburse local clinics for is crap; only hospitals get nice stuff. Then again, it is free and a nurse will do the changes for you if you want.

    The last time I had road rash I let them do two changes (I presented for other issues) before I told them the stuff they were using was crap and I would do it myself. The Dr laughed and fully agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    I don't quite understand how fingertips hit pavement.
    Yeah I don't know either, it's weird. My left pinky is bad, it was sliding, I went down on my left side. But my right hand has three bad finger tips, which should have been in the clear. Riddle me that! haha

    Quote Originally Posted by rideaz View Post
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    That is actually not a bad idea.

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    Anyway just be patient and the skin will heal. Bones take a bit longer.
    Very true. Luckily just flesh wounds.

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    Full finger gloves only help, but wow, to grind through the tips, that's pretty hard core.

    The next thing is were you on tubulars? If you were, okay, not much to do, but if not, then you should know that tubulars give you a pretty good chance of staying upright even if you flat mid turn in a crit at full gas. Like every time that's happened to me or a friend they've stayed upright. Not sure if the newer wide rims will be the same, I'm talking the 21mm wide rims with 19-21mm tires.

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    I crashed moderately hard on a Tues Night group ride in 2010, after my 2009 crash used in the illustrated guide above. 28 mph when I hit the deck I think, was coasting down from doing a pretty big jump, and my teammate slammed on his brakes as I was checking back for cars. Anyway I cleared out the CVS of Tegaderm after the ride, patched myself in a restaurant stall (we had dinner after the ride - most of the guys didn't even realize I fell). I took the last of the Tegaderm off that same Sunday, raced Monday (Tour of Somerville), 6 days later, with no Tegaderm, no wounds, just pink skin.

    For many years I crashed regularly, about 10-12 years. Then I basically stopped crashing at all. I've tried a lot of different stuff but the Tegaderm works best for me. In the "illustrated" thing above, in 2009, I tried everything because I had so many wounds and I was bed or wheelchair-bound. I reverted to Tegaderm after trying everything that the various local CVS/Walgreen/RiteAids carried.
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    Don't listen to the Tegaderm naysayers, they know not of what they speak lol. But seriously, any pad will stick, and you will hate life trying to remove it. I was wary of Tegaderm, then tried it and wow. It sticks like a charm to healthey skin and not one bit of stickiness at the rash area. I don't really think it heals faster than leaving it open (I still have Tegaderm on from 18 days ago) but at least it keeps it sterile/from sticking to clothing etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    I don't quite understand how fingertips hit pavement.Stickys are long and difficult to read all the way through. Easy answer is always tegaderm for gooey/large/bad areas. The smaller spots I just leave to open air. You may have to change tegaderm daily for the first few days, but it's a quick painless process. Don't make my first mistake of trying the so-called "non stick" pads haha
    Same here. I don't think my hands ever got scraped during all my crashes. Hips, shoulders, elbows etc seem to take the brunt of it.
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    I'll say that full finger gloves likely saved my fingers in my early season crash. I ripped through a couple of the fingers, and the palm, but no wounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Don't listen to the Tegaderm naysayers, they know not of what they speak lol. But seriously, any pad will stick, and you will hate life trying to remove it. I was wary of Tegaderm, then tried it and wow. It sticks like a charm to healthey skin and not one bit of stickiness at the rash area. I don't really think it heals faster than leaving it open (I still have Tegaderm on from 18 days ago) but at least it keeps it sterile/from sticking to clothing etc.
    That's what I'm saying though, the mineral oil pads (they're just mesh) don't stick either.

    At any rate, I say let's just all put an end to this crashing business in bike racing. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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    Good idea. It is decided, no one may ever crash again. I love bike racing

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    Thanks guys for all the feedback. CDR, good stuff there. I obviously don't know you but I've learned a lot from you (and others) on these forums so thanks.

    As for tires, I was on clinchers. Maybe I could have stayed up with tubulars like you say, I've never ridden them. Might be time to try! Man I was down quick. Like I was I was on ice. I'm sure plenty of you poor chaps have been there before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Good idea. It is decided, no one may ever crash again. I love bike racing
    the countdown is on. statements like these aren't to be taken lightly. sorry in advance, aaron, I hope it's the other hip!

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