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    Advice on Certain Race

    Ok I emailed this one organizer and never got a reply back. So i figure I post here in case someone could help me

    categories for the Richmond Hill
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    For the Category
    Men 3/4 for the afternoon wave
    74 mile

    What level of ability would that be. Would level 1 be the most fastest riders?
    What times and average speed should one have for each category
    Would you think this event be open to anyone?\

    I was thinking of going down from Canada here to race it. I am just amateur but wondering if i could sneak at least a CAT 3 or Cat 2 race for fun? etc
    or this open to only elite people only?

    Here is the link

    2015 MN State Road Race Championship - Richmond, MN 2015 | ACTIVE

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    2015 MN State Road Race Championship
    Saturday, August 15, 2015 @ 9:00 AM (CDT)
    111 Central Avenue NW Richmond, MN 56368

    here is the official link

    http://www.usacycling.org/events/get...rmit=2015-1809
    http://www.usacycling.org/events/get...rmit=2015-1809

    any advice or more information be very helpful thanks

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    Unless you have a Cat 1, 2, or 3 USAC license or some kind of reciprocity exists between USAC and Canada Cycling (whatever it is called), you'd likely have to race the 4/5.

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    Hi there would the OCA insurance I have with local cycling club work?
    As well for this type of event. for the Masters and Cat 4/5 what type or riders would attend? would they be more less the beginner type? just looking to be challenged a bit, however at same time not get my ass whooped etc. so not sure how this type of event really works. What should i base average speed on
    for example what would a Cat 2 and Cat 3 rider average speed be compared to Cat 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
    Hi there would the OCA insurance I have with local cycling club work?
    As well for this type of event. for the Masters and Cat 4/5 what type or riders would attend? would they be more less the beginner type? just looking to be challenged a bit, however at same time not get my ass whooped etc. so not sure how this type of event really works. What should i base average speed on
    for example what would a Cat 2 and Cat 3 rider average speed be compared to Cat 4?
    How much have you raced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
    Hi there would the OCA insurance I have with local cycling club work?
    As well for this type of event. for the Masters and Cat 4/5 what type or riders would attend? would they be more less the beginner type? just looking to be challenged a bit, however at same time not get my ass whooped etc. so not sure how this type of event really works. What should i base average speed on
    for example what would a Cat 2 and Cat 3 rider average speed be compared to Cat 4?
    Unless you hold a CAT 3 or higher license, you would be racing the CAT4/5 race. End of story. Nothing else matters.

    Average speed is a useless metric for just about everything other than a pan flat, windless time trial. Move on.

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    Do you have a Canadian racing license? If so, use the chart gsteinb posted. If not, you will need to purchase a one-day cat 5 USAC license at the event, and you will only be allowed to race in the cat 4/5 field. It will probably be a fast race given that it is the state championships. If you haven't been in a bike race before, you should expect it to be challenging. If it turns out not to be challenging, then you should do more bike races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    If it turns out not to be challenging, then you should do more bike races.
    i kinda lol'd with this last sentance

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    Ok thanks for the feedback. As for racing, done many club races and Time trials, several Mt Bike and Fat Bike events from Cheq 40 a few 100 miler mt bike events and Fat Bike Birkie.
    So over 3 years now and improving abit, nothing earth shattering though, still very average. was just curious on those type of events i mentioned with licencing etc. just because its different but seems more serious.
    I know i can race in masters i am over 35. So an idea.

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    You can't race in the Masters field as a cat 5. The only race you will be allowed to enter is the cat 4/5 field.

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    Ok thanks, so looks like i can dominate the beginner field, lol

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    Looking forward to that race report.
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    You have to give us your initials so we csn congratulate you on your domination when results are posted.

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    how many riders from Beaver-Moose Racing p/b Maple Syrup & Hockey Night can there be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    The sketch was conceived when SCTV moved to the CBC television network. Due to the difference in the amount of time allocated for commercials, each episode to be broadcast on that network was two minutes longer than those syndicated to the united states. The CBC network heads asked the show's producers to add specifically identifiably Canadian content for those two minutes. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas thought that this was a ridiculous request, since the show had been taped in Canada, with a mostly Canadian cast and crew, for two years.the request inspired them to create a parody that would incorporate every aspect of the humorous stereotype of Canadians.

    The segments were videotaped at the end of a day's shooting, with just Thomas and Moranis and a single camera operator. The sketches were for the most part improvised on the set, after which they would select the best ones for use on the program.

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    It was all very low key and stupid, and we thought, 'Well, they get what they deserve. This is their Canadian content. I hope they like it.'"
    Hilarious, because Bob and Doug really are major cultural icons at this point. To give some idea, there was a 24th anniversary documentary (in Canada a 2-4 is a term referring to a case of 24 beers and also a long weekend in May) documenting Bob and Doug and their cultural impact. It included the residing Prime Minister at the time (the PM is like our president) sneaking out of the back of Parliament dressed like Bob and Doug (ie flannel, coat, toque) with a stubbie beer bottle in his hand.
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    Beauty. I hope he was on his way to the beer store to try to get a free square because there was a mouse in the bottle.



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    How come they make it so difficult in events like this, with all the licensing rules etc? what really is the purpose of licensing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
    How come they make it so difficult in events like this, with all the licensing rules etc? what really is the purpose of licensing?
    Not that difficult. The system simply lets you race against riders of similar experience and ability.
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    oh Gotcha. So more less making someone race Cat 5. as first timer. makes everyone start at the bottom and move up ? i assume

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
    oh Gotcha. So more less making someone race Cat 5. as first timer. makes everyone start at the bottom and move up ? i assume
    Bingo.
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    Nice, so in other words, even if i raced the Cat 5 . there could be some really fast guys there as well? well trained. more less. so cat 5 isn't just some guy on a tricycle then lol

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    Cat 5 will probably be much, much harder than you think.

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