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Old 06-03-05, 06:25 PM   #1
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Century and Crit in same weekend?

Looking into my schedule I noticed something interesting. On the 25th of this month I am doing a slower speed (about 17 avg) century as part of a century training series that starts this week (doing 70 miles on Sunday). On Sunday I have a crit that is designated B+/A priority (basically the same crit that I went off the front last time). I think I have a good shot at placing top 10 in the crit if I try a few different tactics then last time (took 30th last time out of 50).

Now I know I can handle the milage and if I do recovery I think I can be ready for Sunday early morning (7am) crit. Of course I have never tried something like this before and am a little scared that I will be too tired the next day to race 100%. Has anyone ever tried something simular to this? I guess it would be simular to a stage race where a crit is after a long 70+ mile road race. Anything special to look for to prep for this... ?

Note 100 miles is not too much of a stretch. I did 85 miles of Wednesday and felt great the next morning.

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Speaking for myself, even a moderate century would definitely take the edge off for the crit. It's not just tired muscles, it's also depleted glycogen stores, etc. You may be different. Definitely do everything you can to ensure you're re-hydrated, recharge the glucose stores, and rest the legs as much as possible. If the crit isn't super important, not a huge drive, etc., just go for it and learn more about your capabilities.
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I think you are probably right, expecially being in my first year of racing... of course expecially since the crit is A priority I think it may be best to not do the ride... their are plenty of centuries throughout the year...

Then I must think about my first double in September... but with a 152 mile ride under my belt it should not be a major issue.

We will see... of course doing a effectivly long road type race and a crit will tell me much about my abilities for stage racing later, which I am planning on doing starting next year... once everything else is sorted out... of course with my experience last weekend I am not sure that it may be a good idea anyway.

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Hey 58,

Not trying to hi-jack the thread but were can I go to find out about the rides (century ect.) going on in Socal this summer???
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Although many of the centuries are not listed there... but it is as complete as I could find...
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Any reason why you don't do solo centuries? Is it just more fun to ride with others while on such a long ride?
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I have done close to centuries solo... i.e. last Wednesday I got in 85 miles. I like doing centuries with people because they usually keep my tendency to go all out in check and is someone to chat with after 3 - 5 hours in the saddle...

I am thinking about a century next week though... probably an extended beach trip... we will see!
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Thats understandable. I'm going to try to do a full century tomorrow, we'll see if I can keep myself from going all out and blowing up after 60 miles
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Just reliaze that centuries are for base milage and not for going out and killing yourself... (unless you are a pro)... Stay aerobic and ride how you feel... anything over 50 miles tends to get rough... I even watch out for the 70 mile rides I do once in a while... bonking or blowing up on a century is not the best idea when you are say 50 miles from home!
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It's like being in line at the all-you-can-eat buffet. The eyes are always bigger than the stomach.

My guess is you'll be disappointed with the crit results if you attempt this. We'll see, because something tells me you will try.
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Just reliaze that centuries are for base milage and not for going out and killing yourself... (unless you are a pro)... Stay aerobic and ride how you feel... anything over 50 miles tends to get rough... I even watch out for the 70 mile rides I do once in a while... bonking or blowing up on a century is not the best idea when you are say 50 miles from home!
Yeah, but even with monitering my speed with my cycloputer, if I dont feel like i'm pushing myself i speed up

I dont have time to do a century today anyway, I'm painting
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We will see... I will guage tomarrows 70 mile ride to see how I feel the next day and go from there...

I guess I have to decide... crit (30 minutes of racing) vs 6 hours of "fun" on a century...

I guess we can not have it all...
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and den...

What's your decision?
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I would rather focus on the crit being an A priority race. I know I can do the century no problem but I will save them for later in the season...

I am doing my first double century in September... right after my last race this year (not including itt's) so I need a little more base miles (longest ride was a little over 2 metric centuries... 152 miles)
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Of course you shouldn't do the century if the crit is priority A. It's always better to be little undertained than overtrained according to Joe Friel, author of Cyclist's Training Bible.
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last year I did that in reverse order and that was no problem. That is, I did a crit on Sat and Century on Sun. But I would not consider a century then a crit. Why bother? The century, though it is an accomplishment, is just a fun/training ride but the race is where it counts no?
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I would rather focus on the crit being an A priority race. I know I can do the century no problem but I will save them for later in the season...

I am doing my first double century in September... right after my last race this year (not including itt's) so I need a little more base miles (longest ride was a little over 2 metric centuries... 152 miles)
What happened? Did you do the crit or the century?

I assume you did the crit. How did it go? I have this decision to make in a few weeks and would like some input.
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I am doing the crit on the 26th, I actually was supose to do a crit today but due to graduation I chose against it. My next crit is next Sunday as a warm up for the A priority crit on the 26th... lots on intervals and miles before then...
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I am doing the crit on the 26th, I actually was supose to do a crit today but due to graduation I chose against it. My next crit is next Sunday as a warm up for the A priority crit on the 26th... lots on intervals and miles before then...
Ah. Good luck.
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So how did the century go yesterday since you did not do the crit today?

Or did you do neither?
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The century is the 25, the race is the 26, I am chosing the race on the 26 vs the century on the 25th. I am actually thinking about a century for tomarrow... we will see.
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I am doing the crit on the 26th, I actually was supose to do a crit today but due to graduation I chose against it. My next crit is next Sunday as a warm up for the A priority crit on the 26th... lots on intervals and miles before then...
What kind of dedication is that? come on you can graduate any time but once you miss a crit that's it, it's gone forever
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I tried that last year, rode a 5 hour century and then a crit the next morning. Just didnt feel like I had the needed power in my legs and couldnt take the accelerations. I would say dont do it if the crit is important.
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