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Old 06-05-05, 09:07 PM   #1
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Race Report: I'm not a virgin anymore!

today was my 1st RR
38mi hilly out and back ride
40 guys in Cat 5
weather: pretty darn windy

Out: easy pace(but still moving) and hills were not too bad, I moved around from back to front and so on(much easier than I thought) I felt comfortable moving and riding in the pack which was one of my main concerns

Back:
@ the turnaround the pace picked up dramatically
I did not notice but I think a few ppl were lost during the rolling hills b/c inconsistant pace
about 28mi from the start home the large hill began and in the middle there is a flat section then it starts up again
the back of the pack got scattered and the front really accelerated when it flattened out.
I got dropped here cresting too late and too slow
Playing catch-up I cought 2 more guys that fell off the back later than me, we were reiling them in slowly, taking turns up front.
I tried to up the pace, and they followed me in the flats into a short decent where the last of the hill was
they were rested riding off me and I was pretty beat trying to hold a good pace
I slowly lost them up this hill.
Now I was all alone in the wind at the top w/ 8miles to go

Next four guys cought up to me after fighting the wind shortly after the hill.
They told me to grab their wheel and we rotated a pretty good paceline and were flying on the flats w/ a tailwind
one guy shouted "your too skinny there's no wheel to grab"
after recovering from the hills I pick up the pace in front and only one guy can keep it

we work together and creat a good gap, but he can't keep the pace I wanted out front so I then picked up the pace more and he fell behind now there were only 4 miles left, but I am all alone again

I create a good gap, but the course make a hard left straight into the wind.....arrggg this hurts now
with one 1.5mi left he catches me and rides on my wheel, so I slow till he takes over....but he now drops the pace and the other guys working together are bridging the gap
so I take the lead and finish the race ahead of the other guys, but he rides my wheel and gets the sprint by one bike length.

OutCome: not sure what place I got they only listed the top 20/40 I imagine I got somewhere between 35-30th
I was pretty pissed when I lost the pack, but I learned a lot and know what I need to work on (short periods of acceleration w/o killing myslef and CLIMBING)

Its a lot more strategy than I thought, and I realize I could have beat that last guy and if I was more aware of the changing tempo I would have done better even at the same physical level
also I need to really focus on not loosing a wheel and if I am say 8 feet behind accelerate and get to 1ft
When I am trying to bridge a gap I need to push it that little harder and get up close to a wheel not, assume I will slowly bridge it when I am 5-10 feet away.


WOW I wrote a lot hope your eyes don't hurt
Its was a GREAT experience and I can't wait for my next race
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Old 06-05-05, 09:25 PM   #2
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Sonds like you had a good first race... first good job.

Windy hilly road races can be tough for anyone, I am sure I would have probably been dropped too... it is all about the learning process. (Racing is just learning)

Somethings reading you post you should work on...

1. Spin ups... the ability to go from 90 RPM to 110 RPM quickly will allow you to bridge those little gaps that form when someone attacks or you lose a wheel (works wonderful for out of the corner accerations in crits and dealing with surges of speed).

2. Powering over the top of hills... accerate of the top of hills. If you relax their you will lose valuable time and could get dropped. I have learned to on hills with distict tops (like Sierra Ave interval hill) to accerate even through the pain at the top.

3. Visualizing the race... and watching what is going on. Races are dynamic, someone is either attacking, getting dropped, chasing, etc. Look for those little clues on when someone is going to go... usually your instinct pays off... or if you are going to go off the front (a flier) same things apply... knowing where the most attacked places are helps with strategy.

4. Climbing is a sufferfest, for everyone. I am a horible climber, but I am getting better all the time. The only way to get good at climbing is to go out and do it... check out my how to do hill interval thread in the training forum... I prefer the longer hill intervals while some like the short hills...

5. Never give up... look at the quote in my sig... go out and do it again and again. Soon you will be in the lead group, and the feeling will be great. You are already one step above in the game, you finished your first race.

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Old 06-05-05, 09:43 PM   #3
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Listen to that guy. He's got some great results in his races. He should be a certified coach. He could be a certified motivational speaker, too! I get goosebumps every time he posts. You should look back over all of them and read more about this fella' giving advice. He has given you true wisdom from the mind of a true genius.

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Old 06-05-05, 09:48 PM   #4
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You didn't hurt my eyes at all, great report!

I've only done one race so far, and I know the frustration that is losing the pack. It was a 1.6 mile circuit, so I got lapped by them too . My driver's license is suspended right now, so I'm taking this time to work myself up, since its not like I can drive to any races right now anyway .Sounds like you had fun! Congrats on an awesome first race!
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You didn't hurt my eyes at all, great report!

I've only done one race so far, and I know the frustration that is losing the pack. It was a 1.6 mile circuit, so I got lapped by them too . My driver's license is suspended right now, so I'm taking this time to work myself up, since its not like I can drive to any races right now anyway .Sounds like you had fun! Congrats on an awesome first race!
I second this one too...

Oh ya do not listen to fugiace... he i just a troll... all this information is mirrored in at least 3 other race strategy books I have read...
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I second this one too...

Oh ya do not listen to fugiace... he i just a troll... all this information is mirrored in at least 3 other race strategy books I have read...
What'd I say? Look up your other posts and just realize from whom she was taking advice. Guess you don't want her to do that? Hmmm....

BTW, jtenright, it's the experience of a first race that matters. It's always more than a first-timer expects. You'll be amazed at how quickly you'll come around in just a few races. It's pretty darn easy to double your knowledge the first few races. Just keep racing, you'll be fighting through the pack in no time flat!

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What'd I say? Look up your other posts and just realize from whom she was taking advice. Guess you don't want her to do that? Hmmm....

BTW, jtenright, it's the experience of a first race that matters. It's always more than a first-timer expects. You'll be amazed at how quickly you'll come around in just a few races. It's pretty darn easy to double your knowledge the first few races. Just keep racing, you'll be fighting through the pack in no time flat!

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That is interesting because there are more than one person here on the forums wo actually like reading my race reports and talking about what someone new to the sport has learned about racing, etc. I would think my experiences would be more genuine that the perposed "racer" commenting on how another "racer" doesn't know what he is talking about...

Tell me that next time I am suffering through a hill repeat or an LT inteval or leading in a race or pulling a paceline. Tell me that when I get dropped off the back or go off the front, or finish with the pack. Tell me that as I recover after a 80+ mile ride or a 1 hour LT session... it sure sounds like I at least race... and like someone else has no clue...

Sorry for the thread hijack but this guy is just a troll...
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That is interesting because there are more than one person here on the forums wo actually like reading my race reports and talking about what someone new to the sport has learned about racing, etc. I would think my experiences would be more genuine that the perposed "racer" commenting on how another "racer" doesn't know what he is talking about...

Tell me that next time I am suffering through a hill repeat or an LT inteval or leading in a race or pulling a paceline. Tell me that when I get dropped off the back or go off the front, or finish with the pack. Tell me that as I recover after a 80+ mile ride or a 1 hour LT session... it sure sounds like I at least race... and like someone else has no clue...

Sorry for the thread hijack but this guy is just a troll...


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So anyway jtenright, great race. Any chance of seeing you around in NY?
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congratulations, but i hope she came first.






oops, it was a bike race!
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Thanks guys,
I came not knowing what my competition was going to be like at all and I feel good that I have only been riding for a few months and have put only 800mi on my legs.
I feel once I get twice the base miles and start doing intervals and hill intervals I will be in the lead pack(of a Cat5 RR anyways)

I am leaving for Australia in 2 weeks and will be there for 6 months
Being off the bike for about a month, but plan on having mine shipped over or buying one there
I already found a club over there I am gonna join and therre are local races in Sydney almost every week so I'll get pletny of pratice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
really excited
penguin: nope npt in NY any time soon, buy this winter I was the NYC for the first time was pretty damn cool I had a ton of fun.
roadgator: of course she came 1st I am a tru gentleman
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