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    Yellow Jerseys- Following the fabric

    This doesn't really matter, but I'm curious- where do the yellow (or pink) jerseys come from? They always seem to have one for even the most unexpected winners. Do the organizers make one of each size for each team before the race? If so, what happens to all of the jerseys that were never won? Do they just throw them away? Could some clown from a tiny little team have a yellow jersey just for fun? He could ride around in a yellow jersey from the TDF pretending he actually won the thing or maybe he could hang it on his wall for motivation.

    Is there some other way they take care of this? It seems like that would cost a lot of money.

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    They have a few of each size ready for each days stage. When the stage is over and before the presentation, someone backstage quickly heat transfers the appropriate team logo onto the jersey.

    You'll notice that in some tours like the TDF, they have what is just a ceremonial jersey for the presentation. They zip up in the back and are not worn during the race.
    i may have overreacted

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    Quote Originally Posted by DXchulo
    This doesn't really matter, but I'm curious- where do the yellow (or pink) jerseys come from? They always seem to have one for even the most unexpected winners. Do the organizers make one of each size for each team before the race? If so, what happens to all of the jerseys that were never won? Do they just throw them away? Could some clown from a tiny little team have a yellow jersey just for fun? He could ride around in a yellow jersey from the TDF pretending he actually won the thing or maybe he could hang it on his wall for motivation.

    Is there some other way they take care of this? It seems like that would cost a lot of money.

    1. Sponsors. They follow the race with a van full of jerseys, all sizes, short and long sleeve, thermals as well.
    2. As soon as the classement is known, they quickly heat-press a podium jersey with a coloured plastic transfer of the sponsor, and this goes to the podium. It goes on easily, as the podium jersey zips at the back.(one size fits all....most riders are a similar build!) The rider often keeps this jersey and mounts it as a memento. Later on that night, properly fitted racing jerseys are sent to the rider's hotel.

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    Several times during the Giro, they cut away from the post-stage show video to show a person ironing the team logo onto the generic jersey for the presentation.

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    Heat press? Not always.
    I have a Motorola sticker made of fabric that one of the mechanics gave me at the DuPont Tour in 1995. Usually, that's all they use.
    Each team is required to supply those stickers.

    And I also saw a box full of leader's jerseys unceremoniously stuffed into the trunk of a Race vehicle at TdG. It's a lot less formal that you'd expect.
    I mean, they don't carry them around in a velvet-lined box a la the Stanley Cup

    (The Stanley Cup was once the most revered trophy in all of sports until hockey became passe`. When the NHL folded, the Stanley Cup was sold to a gas station in Toronto for use during oil changes. Sad story, really.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EventServices
    The Stanley Cup was once the most revered trophy in all of sports until hockey became passe`. When the NHL folded, the Stanley Cup was sold to a gas station in Toronto for use during oil changes. Sad story, really.)
    I guess this was taken before that. I am the geeky one on the left.

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    OK, so there's the one they present on the podium, quickly ironed on, etc. But then for top pro race, the competitor's team/sponsor/whomever provides the jersey themselves.

    Seriously - do you really think Lance's all-yellow custom fit Nike TT skin suit rides around in the back of Jean Marie LeBlanc's Citroen for three weeks? Well - maybe it does. Bad example. But you get my point!

    They had cameras in Lance's room during the tour last year. He had a box full of his own yellow jerseys.

    Quote Originally Posted by DXchulo
    This doesn't really matter, but I'm curious- where do the yellow (or pink) jerseys come from? They always seem to have one for even the most unexpected winners. Do the organizers make one of each size for each team before the race? If so, what happens to all of the jerseys that were never won? Do they just throw them away? Could some clown from a tiny little team have a yellow jersey just for fun? He could ride around in a yellow jersey from the TDF pretending he actually won the thing or maybe he could hang it on his wall for motivation.

    Is there some other way they take care of this? It seems like that would cost a lot of money.
    Heck yeah it costs the sponsors a lot of money. But then they are looking to spend money to promote their brand. Nike LOVES to spend a bunch of money on Lance's yellow TT suit!

    If you look at the presentation jerseys at the TdF, you'll notice it's a weird thing you wouldn't want to ride in anyway. It's got a full length zipper in the back to streamline the presentation and give The Badger something to do up there. I guess it would be good for flirting out on a ride. "Hey, could you unzip me? I'm soooooo HOT!". IIRC they're long-sleeve as well.

    Ride around in a yellow jersey like you won the thing? Heck yeah - I see dorks doing it all the time. Around Tour time your LBS will gladly sell you an "official" Mellow Johnny for $100! Same for mountain's (polka dots) best young rider (white) and sprinter's (green) jerseys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV27
    OK, so there's the one they present on the podium, quickly ironed on, etc. But then for top pro race, the competitor's team/sponsor/whomever provides the jersey themselves.

    Not really.....leader's jersey's have their own sponsor, eg at the Tour it's sportswear giant, Nike. If a rider from a Vermarc or Agu Sport sponsored team leads a classement, they have to wear a Nike leader's jersey supplied by the SDTDF.

    Smaller races is a different story.

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    I have been wondering about this too.

    This past weekend when Chris Wherry won USPRO the jersey they gave him to wear on the podium apparently didn't fit so his team gave him a CUSTOM stars and bars jersey they had PRE-MADE. So Health-net had some stars and bars jerseys already made? did all the teams do this?

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...?id=USPRO/DV27

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed073
    Not really.....leader's jersey's have their own sponsor, eg at the Tour it's sportswear giant, Nike. If a rider from a Vermarc or Agu Sport sponsored team leads a classement, they have to wear a Nike leader's jersey supplied by the SDTDF.

    Smaller races is a different story.
    No - they do not have to wear a Nike jersey. They have to wear a jersey with a Nike logo. Just like a lot of guys in the peleton ride a bike with some other manufacturer's stickers on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV27
    No - they do not have to wear a Nike jersey. They have to wear a jersey with a Nike logo.
    Do you have proof of this?

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    Oh, I'd have to go looking for actual proof. But it is common practice in pro sports in general. I know for a fact that Lance keeps his own stock (he showed it to OLN last lear) but of course that's a bad example because Lance's sponsor is also the Tour jersey sponsor.

    The best anecdotal evidence is time trial suits. In any particular tour you might see a guy ride in an all-yellow suit for one TT and one with black shorts in another. Or one with blue shorts.....You see the same thing in other races. Why would the organisors provide all these choices? Then there's the issue of fairness. I know Nike spends a lot of time and money on Lance's TT suits optimizing them for aerodynamics and cooling. Each panel is custom cut for Lance's body. I'd bet that Adidas does the same thing for Jan Ullrich. What are ya gonna do, just tell Jan to wear Lance's suit whether it fits or not? Or make the official yellow suits generic and throw away all that R&D if Lance wins the prologue and leads wire-to-wire? And what if Lance was in yellow for today's Dauphine TT? Again, just throw out the R&D and say "er....gimme a large!"?. And what the heck do you do if Jose Rujano is in yellow? Tell him to just wear a real baggy TT suit? Go down to NikeTown and see if they have a little kid's skinsuit in yellow?

    Pro cycling is a pretty big sport. It only makes sense that the teams would have the option of providing their own apparel as long as it has all the sponsor's names in the right places. Nike doesn't really care if the riders actually wear their jerseys - just that the public thinks they wear them and think they like them. The last thing they want is for Ullrich to come in with a losing time saying "this F'n POS Nike suit flapped in the wind really bad, made me really hot and chafed the ***** out of my nuts"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV27
    The last thing they want is for Ullrich to come in with a losing time saying "this F'n POS Nike suit flapped in the wind really bad, made me really hot and chafed the ***** out of my nuts"!

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    lol That would make a great print ad in Velonews, don't you think. Next to the sport drink ads maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV27
    Oh, I'd have to go looking for actual proof. But it is common practice in pro sports in general. I know for a fact that Lance keeps his own stock (he showed it to OLN last lear) but of course that's a bad example because Lance's sponsor is also the Tour jersey sponsor.

    The best anecdotal evidence is time trial suits. In any particular tour you might see a guy ride in an all-yellow suit for one TT and one with black shorts in another. Or one with blue shorts.....You see the same thing in other races. Why would the organisors provide all these choices? Then there's the issue of fairness. I know Nike spends a lot of time and money on Lance's TT suits optimizing them for aerodynamics and cooling. Each panel is custom cut for Lance's body. I'd bet that Adidas does the same thing for Jan Ullrich. What are ya gonna do, just tell Jan to wear Lance's suit whether it fits or not? Or make the official yellow suits generic and throw away all that R&D if Lance wins the prologue and leads wire-to-wire? And what if Lance was in yellow for today's Dauphine TT? Again, just throw out the R&D and say "er....gimme a large!"?. And what the heck do you do if Jose Rujano is in yellow? Tell him to just wear a real baggy TT suit? Go down to NikeTown and see if they have a little kid's skinsuit in yellow?

    Pro cycling is a pretty big sport. It only makes sense that the teams would have the option of providing their own apparel as long as it has all the sponsor's names in the right places. Nike doesn't really care if the riders actually wear their jerseys - just that the public thinks they wear them and think they like them. The last thing they want is for Ullrich to come in with a losing time saying "this F'n POS Nike suit flapped in the wind really bad, made me really hot and chafed the ***** out of my nuts"!

    C

    Skinsuits are different to jerseys, which is what this thread was originally about. Of course suits are custom made for some riders. The jerseys supplied by Nike/ASO at the Tour are not. You can even see from photos on cyclingnews.com or grahamwatson.com that on hot days guys like McEwen/Virenque/Armstrong are wearing the paper-thin new Nike tops, designed to keep riders cooler.

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