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Old 02-22-06, 01:35 PM   #1
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On Amgen's TOC web site, the "host" says that he expects the pros to do a "relatively flat" time trial in 23-28mph speeds. That sounds a tad slow to me for pros. I'd expect speeds of about 30mph for a distance that short. Am I completely off on that?

I know that the UMCA's record for a road century (100 miles) was 23.985 mph, set by Dan McGehee. Regardless of whether that was a flat road, if he can average basically 24mph for 100 miles, can't the pros do better than that for 17? (Yes, I know wind is a factor, but the Amgen guy said he didn't expect much wind).

(Edit: BTW, McGehee did the record in 80 degree weather, breaking the record he set in 95 (!!!) degree weather of 23.89mph)
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Old 02-22-06, 01:39 PM   #2
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yeah, that does seem pretty slow to me. in fact, i could probably be within that range by the middle of summer if i focused my training a bit.
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Old 02-22-06, 01:46 PM   #3
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Yes, for them. Zabriskie did 33+mph in Stage 1 of the TDF last year (albeit for 11 and 1/2 miles).
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Old 02-22-06, 02:34 PM   #4
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Might have something to do with last three days of hard racing...
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Old 02-22-06, 02:36 PM   #5
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Old 02-22-06, 02:37 PM   #6
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Yes, that's slow..heck, I can average 24mph for 17 miles on flats with no winds, and that's on my road bike too.
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Old 02-22-06, 03:18 PM   #7
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It is slow for a flat TT but todays TT has a few climbs in it and one mst remember that winds play a huge role in the overall speeds.
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Old 02-22-06, 03:57 PM   #8
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Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
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Old 02-22-06, 05:25 PM   #9
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Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
I could do the course that fast on average if the course was only as long as the actual profile drawing from above. I would be fun to go first and see how many of the riders catch me. "Oh look, Wegmann just caught his 119 minute man!"
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They said it was very windy today.
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I would hardly call that flat. Of course the times are going to be slower with two climbs (albeit small ones) at the beginning. I'm sure there was wind as well.
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Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
I could if I was driving my truck.
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Avg speed means nothing, 'cept for the velodrome.

Trust me, the pros are getting paid for a reason.
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Yes, for them. Zabriskie did 33+mph in Stage 1 of the TDF last year (albeit for 11 and 1/2 miles).
"Z"also went out early and had a slight tail wind that died later on in the day for the other riders.
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yeah, that does seem pretty slow to me. in fact, i could probably be within that range by the middle of summer if i focused my training a bit.
Really?
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Really?
that was before i looked at the profile. i was still under the impression that it was a flat course. i would gather i *might* be able to do this course in the high teens.
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Old 02-23-06, 01:08 PM   #17
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Yes, this is what some folks consider to be a "flatish" course. I have also heard commentary that today's course through Big Sur is "relativley flat." I doubt if any of us would consider it "relatively flat." No sustained bazillion-mile climbs, but non-stop up-and-down for 50 miles or more. Nothing like a day of never-ending intervals to get the ol' blood pumping, huh?
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I do that ride pretty much 2x a week and the wind is horrible. At times you are going 12-15 mph with your HR at 180. It is brutal plus add in the 3 big climbs and man you are working way too hard. I was amazed they avg that fast I was predicting high teens but low to mid 20's is screaming fast.
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here's a pic from the top of the first climb where i photographed the riders. you can see the start house below.

it's a hard course.

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Holy crap
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here's a pic from the top of the first climb where i photographed the riders. you can see the start house below.

it's a hard course.

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Awesome picture!!
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thanks. here's a pic of landis as he stormed past me at the top of the first climb.

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thanks. here's a pic of landis as he stormed past me at the top of the first climb.

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Awesome pics! Do you have more?
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