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    On Amgen's TOC web site, the "host" says that he expects the pros to do a "relatively flat" time trial in 23-28mph speeds. That sounds a tad slow to me for pros. I'd expect speeds of about 30mph for a distance that short. Am I completely off on that?

    I know that the UMCA's record for a road century (100 miles) was 23.985 mph, set by Dan McGehee. Regardless of whether that was a flat road, if he can average basically 24mph for 100 miles, can't the pros do better than that for 17? (Yes, I know wind is a factor, but the Amgen guy said he didn't expect much wind).

    (Edit: BTW, McGehee did the record in 80 degree weather, breaking the record he set in 95 (!!!) degree weather of 23.89mph)

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    yeah, that does seem pretty slow to me. in fact, i could probably be within that range by the middle of summer if i focused my training a bit.

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    Yes, for them. Zabriskie did 33+mph in Stage 1 of the TDF last year (albeit for 11 and 1/2 miles).

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    Might have something to do with last three days of hard racing...
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    here is the profile:


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    Yes, that's slow..heck, I can average 24mph for 17 miles on flats with no winds, and that's on my road bike too.

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    It is slow for a flat TT but todays TT has a few climbs in it and one mst remember that winds play a huge role in the overall speeds.

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    Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhmontana
    Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
    I could do the course that fast on average if the course was only as long as the actual profile drawing from above. I would be fun to go first and see how many of the riders catch me. "Oh look, Wegmann just caught his 119 minute man!"

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    They said it was very windy today.
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    I would hardly call that flat. Of course the times are going to be slower with two climbs (albeit small ones) at the beginning. I'm sure there was wind as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhmontana
    Winning speed today was 28.33mph avg, .... i don't think anyone on this forum could do that on this course.
    I could if I was driving my truck.

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    Avg speed means nothing, 'cept for the velodrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
    Yes, for them. Zabriskie did 33+mph in Stage 1 of the TDF last year (albeit for 11 and 1/2 miles).
    "Z"also went out early and had a slight tail wind that died later on in the day for the other riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    yeah, that does seem pretty slow to me. in fact, i could probably be within that range by the middle of summer if i focused my training a bit.
    Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by squeegy200
    Really?
    that was before i looked at the profile. i was still under the impression that it was a flat course. i would gather i *might* be able to do this course in the high teens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    here is the profile:

    Yes, this is what some folks consider to be a "flatish" course. I have also heard commentary that today's course through Big Sur is "relativley flat." I doubt if any of us would consider it "relatively flat." No sustained bazillion-mile climbs, but non-stop up-and-down for 50 miles or more. Nothing like a day of never-ending intervals to get the ol' blood pumping, huh?

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    I do that ride pretty much 2x a week and the wind is horrible. At times you are going 12-15 mph with your HR at 180. It is brutal plus add in the 3 big climbs and man you are working way too hard. I was amazed they avg that fast I was predicting high teens but low to mid 20's is screaming fast.
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    here's a pic from the top of the first climb where i photographed the riders. you can see the start house below.

    it's a hard course.

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    http://www.fototime.com/8EA3290ED9D203C/orig.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader
    here's a pic from the top of the first climb where i photographed the riders. you can see the start house below.

    it's a hard course.

    erader

    http://www.fototime.com/8EA3290ED9D203C/orig.jpg

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    thanks. here's a pic of landis as he stormed past me at the top of the first climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader
    thanks. here's a pic of landis as he stormed past me at the top of the first climb.

    erader

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    Awesome pics! Do you have more?

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