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Old 02-22-06, 03:32 PM   #1
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It hurts to watch TTs

Is it just me, or does it hurt to watch Floyd Landis on his TT bike? He's pratically sitting on the nose of his saddle.
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Old 02-22-06, 03:43 PM   #2
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When I'm doing a TT, that's where I am. The steeper the seat tube angle the better.

Also, when you get to his status, your gooch is made of kevlar and tungsten.
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With the amount of power these guys are putting down on the pedals, I don't think there's that much weight sitting on the saddle.
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Is he riding the bike, or is the bike riding him?

I actually saved this photo from the Tour because it looks so painful. I would think it would be to his advantage to set the bike up around how his body position is, since it's clear he's not going to sit in the saddle the way it's set up.

It seems like a lot of his weight is on his elbows so that saddle is probably just kissing his a**, just like he used to have to do for Lance.
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Is he riding the bike, or is the bike riding him?

I actually saved this photo from the Tour because it looks so painful. I would think it would be to his advantage to set the bike up around how his body position is, since it's clear he's not going to sit in the saddle the way it's set up.

It seems like a lot of his weight is on his elbows so that saddle is probably just kissing his a**, just like he used to have to do for Lance.
It's my understanding that they can't just move the seat forward because their is a UCI rule about a certain distance the nose of the saddle can be from the bottom bracket. Also, I think that photo was from the Tour de Georgia
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It's my understanding that they can't just move the seat forward because their is a UCI rule about a certain distance the nose of the saddle can be from the bottom bracket. Also, I think that photo was from the Tour de Georgia
Yes, you're right - it's from the Tour de Georgia. I would go back and change my original post but then you'll just look crazy.

I didn't know that about the saddle nose rule but it's makes sense.
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Yes, you're right - it's from the Tour de Georgia. I would go back and change my original post but then you'll just look crazy.

I didn't know that about the saddle nose rule but it's makes sense.
Thanks for that, I usually don't like to look like an idiot.
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The nose has to be 5cm behind the center of the bottom bracket. Dave Z and others ride like this as well.
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It hurts to watch Floyd because the dude's uglier than homemade sin... And probably also that riding position too...
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When I'm doing a TT, that's where I am. The steeper the seat tube angle the better.

Also, when you get to his status, your gooch is made of kevlar and tungsten.
tungsten?
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Let his results in San Jose speak for themselves. I need to remind you (in case his results don't) that riding the bike is NOT a beauty pageant.

The T.T. is actually one of the most exciting disciplines of cycling to watch if you have real-time results at the finish line. If you can see the rider's time posted on a display clock while they're finishing, it can be heart-stopping.
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Let his results in San Jose speak for themselves. I need to remind you (in case his results don't) that riding the bike is NOT a beauty pageant.

The T.T. is actually one of the most exciting disciplines of cycling to watch if you have real-time results at the finish line. If you can see the rider's time posted on a display clock while they're finishing, it can be heart-stopping.
Ok that brings up another gripe with the TV coverage. The timing...well there isn't any for the TV coverage. In the prologe we heard...well you right (didn't you say you were announcing the finish line?)...the announcer in the background announce times and Paul Sherwin would say a different time...and why isn't there a clock we can see at the finish line?
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i have a question, why do they stay in such
a tall gear? Suppossidly ~90rpm is good form,
right? So why are they all practically standing on
the pedals?? I hear 'em say, "Oh, they are in
such a big TT gear blah blah," but why not shift
to an easier one? They're running geared bikes right??
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Let his results in San Jose speak for themselves. I need to remind you (in case his results don't) that riding the bike is NOT a beauty pageant.

The T.T. is actually one of the most exciting disciplines of cycling to watch if you have real-time results at the finish line. If you can see the rider's time posted on a display clock while they're finishing, it can be heart-stopping.

I don't need a reminder... I think I'd RATHER watch TT's than a road stage. I'd rather RIDE a TT that a crit.
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i have a question, why do they stay in such
a tall gear? Suppossidly ~90rpm is good form,
right? So why are they all practically standing on
the pedals?? I hear 'em say, "Oh, they are in
such a big TT gear blah blah," but why not shift
to an easier one? They're running geared bikes right??
What gears are they actually using? For the speeds they're running, the gears aren't that big. I'm seeing 100rpms on the flats and 85-90rpms on the uphill sections..
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I don't know how big the discrepency was, but we were getting the 'unofficial results' at the top of Coit Tower. Shaggy Sherwin was voicing the show an hour or two later, so he had different numbers.

It's not Parliament. There will be mistakes/differences.
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TTs generally use lower cadences because most people are wired for higher power outputs at LT at a lower cadence. Spinning faster usually raises the heartrate slightly at the same power (except for the occasional Lance who TT's at roughly 100RPMs) but it also protects the muscle fibers. So generally you will see people spinning higher cadences in order to not stress their bodies so much in a regular race. However, as TT's are so important, a person goes at the optimum regardless of the muscular insult. Thats why many will put on larger rings (a 55x42 or 56x44) up front and spin lower cadences.

Realize that all of the pros have also undergone strict testing to find the optimum power/cadence at LT and this is what they will actually be using. Personally I Run crits at about 110 rpms, RRs at 100-105 rpms and TT at 90-100 rpms.
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