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  • Ivan Basso (2nd in 05)

    61 93.85%
  • Jan Ullrich (3rd)

    43 66.15%
  • Francisco Mancebo (4th)

    0 0%
  • Alexander Vinokourov (5th)

    20 30.77%
  • Levi Leipheimer (6th)

    2 3.08%
  • Michael Rasmussen (7th)

    2 3.08%
  • Cadel Evans (8th)

    4 6.15%
  • Floyd Landis (9th)

    33 50.77%
  • TBD leader of Discovery (George-12, Popo-14, Paulo-25, or ??)

    4 6.15%
  • Other (Alejandro Valverde, Damiano Cunego, Iban Mayo, ??)

    20 30.77%
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    Predict the TdF podium by 5/3/06

    This poll will close on 5/3/2006.

    Since polls only allow up to 10 choices, and the leader for Discovery is unclear, I'll just make the generic "TBD Discovery leader" as one of the choices.

    CORRECTION: Popovych finished 12th in 05 and George in 14th, not vice versa like I listed above (and can no longer correct).
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    So, I'm guessing that Ullrich and Basso will have too much confidence and pressure and will not actually place, while those with less pressure will shine. In particular, at this point, I'm predicting Vino, Floyd and Cadel will be on top. Vino was incredible last year, and showed how strong he still was on the last day. Since then, he has prepared mentally and physically specifically for the Tour. He seems to have the strongest (most determined) personality of them all, and I think he will pull it off. Floyd has made incredible improvements in both the TT and in climbing... good enough to jump all the way to the top of the podium, just below Vino. And the man from Down Under will finish right behind him.

    I reserve the right to update my prediction as we get closer to the start!

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    I chose Jan, Ivan, and Vino. I hope its in that order.
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    Basso, Ullrich, and Landis, in that order.

    I'm not even a Landis fan really, but with TTs being so important this year I just can't bring myself to pick Valverde or Vino over him.

    I hate to be boring and pick Basso since everybody and their brother will pick him. I've done my fair share of supporting Jan around here and I hope he wins, but the knee problem scares me. Basso has improved his TTs and he has an experience advantage of being the #1 TDF guy on his team over guys like Vino and Valverde. Bjarne Riis has all of the CSC guys in such a relaxed mood, and they really support each other. He's built a fantastic team atmosphere with those guys. I think they really do believe that Basso can win both the Giro and the Tour.

    There's just one question: How will Basso handle the pressure if he becomes the overwhelming media favorite?
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    Why does everyone keep saying the TTs are so important this year? I'll start a separate thread on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DXchulo
    Basso, Ullrich, and Landis, in that order.

    I'm not even a Landis fan really, but with TTs being so important this year I just can't bring myself to pick Valverde or Vino over him.

    I hate to be boring and pick Basso since everybody and their brother will pick him. I've done my fair share of supporting Jan around here and I hope he wins, but the knee problem scares me. Basso has improved his TTs and he has an experience advantage of being the #1 TDF guy on his team over guys like Vino and Valverde. Bjarne Riis has all of the CSC guys in such a relaxed mood, and they really support each other. He's built a fantastic team atmosphere with those guys. I think they really do believe that Basso can win both the Giro and the Tour.

    There's just one question: How will Basso handle the pressure if he becomes the overwhelming media favorite?
    +1, I really hop it is Basso, Ulrich, and Landis on the podium in Paris. CSC is the team to beat this year, and if CSC has good luck, then it will be Basso. If Ulrich can hold his own on the climbs, and gain back some time in the time trials I see Jan in 1st.

    Basso: Better climber then the three.... Has a STRONGER TEAM.
    Jan: Better overall, and this maybe his last tour, and chance of winning
    Landis: Could be an exciting wild card (time trials), as long as his team can support him, and he can hold his own in the climbs
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    Basso, Landis, Ullrich

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    I think it'll be Basso, Ullrich and Vino. But I wouldn't be surprised at an Iban Mayo reprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique
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    Landis: Could be an exciting wild card (time trials), as long as his team can support him, and he cna hold his own in the climbs

    Thats certainly his soft spot... I forsee Floyd being alot like Jan in 2003...where he just rides with the leaders, and there is no other phonak jerseys to be seen...
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    1st: Ivan Basso.

    2nd: Jan Ullrich.

    3rd: Alejandro Valverde.

    FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakey
    Thats certainly his soft spot... I forsee Floyd being alot like Jan in 2003...where he just rides with the leaders, and there is no other phonak jerseys to be seen...
    Pretty much a shadow of the Brasstown climb at the TDG, where it was just Landis, Danielson, and Popo.

    Personally, I am hoping Ulrich wins, just because he is the older of the three.... and his tour years a numbered.

    If he wins.... I wouldn't be surpirsed if he retired.... but I also wouldn't be surprised if he continues riding for another 4-6 years (does awful), and completely destroys his Legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    Why does everyone keep saying the TTs are so important this year? I'll start a separate thread on that.

    2 long ITT's. Only 2 days in the Pyranees, and only 3 mountain top finishes. It's too bad that Uhlrich is not on form because the organizers set this course to give him a great chance to give Basso a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmet Head
    So, I'm guessing that Ullrich and Basso will have too much confidence and pressure and will not actually place, while those with less pressure will shine.
    Care to put any money on Basso not placing? Barring injury or illness between now and the start, Basso to place is about as close to a lock as anything ever gets in cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
    1st: Ivan Basso.

    2nd: Jan Ullrich.

    3rd: Alejandro Valverde.

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    The only other lock is Rasmussen doesn't make top 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
    The only other lock is Rasmussen doesn't make top 10.
    It will be hard for him this year, the peloton isn't going to let him get away as easily.... and we have seen his TT skills!
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    Betting the trifecta on this I'd have to go with Basso to win, then box Ullrich, Landis and Valverde. I think those three will cross the line second through fourth, but too tough to pick the exact order.

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    Anyone think Hincapie top 10?, or how about Levi?


    As for Basso: The Giro will be the deciding factor.... it may weaken him too much for the tour..... can't wait find out! This tour has the potential to be one of the best tours in the past decade. (2003 was pretty exciting though)
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    Ullrich, Vino, Evans. I love Basso, but I question whether he can keep it together and avoid sickness for as long as he needs to. I fear Floyd may have peaked too early. I'm hoping to be surprised by Levi, great rider, but I'm just not sure he's got the quality for the Tour. And Mancebo could do it, but he looks too agonized on the bike for me to vote for him. Ahhh, it's a crapshoot.

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    Basso
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    Landis and Valverde rounding out the top five. Rasmussen being allowed out of anyone's sight? It's possible because no one will worry about him for the TTs but top ten? No chance. CSC is a strong team and will be riding for Basso, but anyone else think that other CSCs could make the top five? Julich? Voight? Zabriskie? They can TT and climb (I know that Z isn't considered a climber but at his power outputs nd being only a bit over 140 lbs, he can't be bad either) and will be sure to attack the living daylights out of the others. If one gets away, you could have 2 CSCs within the top 5.

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    Julich and Voight are getting up there in age, and it really depends how much energy they expend for Basso to how high of a podium spot they get. I see at least 3 CSC riders in top 15.

    If I was CSC I would let Landis or Ulrich take the yellowin the first 12 days This will save all of the teams strength in the earlier stages, letting Phonak and other teams chase down breaks. This will give Basso well rested domestiques in the mountain stages.
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    Too early to pick...illness injury etc. but based on the past and current fitness and Basso riding the Giro to win ...Ullrich, Landis, Vino. This TDF will be won and lost with tactics and teamwork...with that said how do you leave out CSC and Disco??? What a crapshoot.
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    Ulrich, Basso, Vinokourov

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    I am hoping Ullrich wins this year. Maybe T-Mobile will give themselves up for Jan this year. Last year it seemed they were not clear what was their team objective.

    Is Leipheimer in the Giro de Italia? If not, he may be planning a serious charge this year in the TDF.

    Cadel Evans is my dark horse candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell
    Rasmussen being allowed out of anyone's sight? It's possible because no one will worry about him for the TTs but top ten? No chance.
    Rasmussen's top goal has to be KOM, with a stage win secondary. If he's smart, he'll dump some time early, so he can get away on a mountain stage and rack up KOM points. That strategy always worked for Virenque.

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