Bruyneel on Giro course
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Bruyneel on Giro course
In case you did not see it, at cyclingnews.com he said, "In terms of the parcours, Bruyneel isn't too happy with organisers' attempts at igniting even more interest in the race. "This course is really very, very hard and you have to ask yourself - why?" he said. "The interest in the Giro was higher than ever last year; it's always an intense race right up to the second-to-last stage.
"So as a director I would prefer it to be less hard - I think the makers of this course have lost their minds a bit," he continued. "Paolo and Tom went and previewed a lot of the course recently, including Stage 17 - there's no road at the end: it's 5.5 km up a ski slope!" exclaimed Bruyneel.
"We'll be using 34x28/29 gearing - that's not cycling. We have struggled more with making sure we have the right components and equipment than at any other race in our team's history; even at the Tour de France we know that as long as you have a 39x25 you're good, but this race..."
"So as a director I would prefer it to be less hard - I think the makers of this course have lost their minds a bit," he continued. "Paolo and Tom went and previewed a lot of the course recently, including Stage 17 - there's no road at the end: it's 5.5 km up a ski slope!" exclaimed Bruyneel.
"We'll be using 34x28/29 gearing - that's not cycling. We have struggled more with making sure we have the right components and equipment than at any other race in our team's history; even at the Tour de France we know that as long as you have a 39x25 you're good, but this race..."
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
In case you did not see it, at cyclingnews.com he said, "In terms of the parcours, Bruyneel isn't too happy with organisers' attempts at igniting even more interest in the race. "This course is really very, very hard and you have to ask yourself - why?" he said. "The interest in the Giro was higher than ever last year; it's always an intense race right up to the second-to-last stage.
"So as a director I would prefer it to be less hard - I think the makers of this course have lost their minds a bit," he continued. "Paolo and Tom went and previewed a lot of the course recently, including Stage 17 - there's no road at the end: it's 5.5 km up a ski slope!" exclaimed Bruyneel.
"We'll be using 34x28/29 gearing - that's not cycling. We have struggled more with making sure we have the right components and equipment than at any other race in our team's history; even at the Tour de France we know that as long as you have a 39x25 you're good, but this race..."
"So as a director I would prefer it to be less hard - I think the makers of this course have lost their minds a bit," he continued. "Paolo and Tom went and previewed a lot of the course recently, including Stage 17 - there's no road at the end: it's 5.5 km up a ski slope!" exclaimed Bruyneel.
"We'll be using 34x28/29 gearing - that's not cycling. We have struggled more with making sure we have the right components and equipment than at any other race in our team's history; even at the Tour de France we know that as long as you have a 39x25 you're good, but this race..."
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
If a pro cyclist is in need of a 34x29 then that is one steep climb. I have to ask both the Giro and Tour organizers why such extreme courses this year? The Tour is nearly devoid of any mountain top finishes and the Giro is just over the top with them. Perhaps they should combine the two and even them both out!
Tour de Fritaly!
6000 km 2 month long race. I'd watch it!
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Originally Posted by PenguinDeD
for some reason I read that as tour de fritolay.
You need to ride more!
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Originally Posted by Cypress
Tour de Fritaly!
6000 km 2 month long race. I'd watch it!
6000 km 2 month long race. I'd watch it!
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Holy crap....34x28/29 gearing....for pros??? How steep are these climbs? That's insane.
I guess Tom Danielson won't be breezing up these at 17 mph.
I guess Tom Danielson won't be breezing up these at 17 mph.
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In Cycle Sport America (Jan. 2006) There was an interview with Gilberto Simoi, and he was talking about how he previewed the last part of stage 17(last 5.5km 24.4% UNPAVEd GRAVEL dirt road). For the final kilometer of his scouting ride he switched to his Mt. Bike! This should be an awesome stage to watch, and if the peloton gets bogged down.... expect to see a lot of Pros walking!
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Originally Posted by domestique
(last 5.5km 24.4% UNPAVEd GRAVEL dirt road)
Jebus! I took my TCR up a gravel walking trail that was about 20% and had HUGE problems keeping traction.
This could be interesting...
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
How are the cars gonna get up it?
That would be bloody marvelous. The cars are all stalled out on the road as the rest of the peloton crams up behind them.
Methinks this won't be a very wide road.
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Originally Posted by PenguinDeD
for some reason I read that as tour de fritolay.
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Here is a topo of the top of the mountain. Thre is a better one at https://www.plandecorones.net/impianticima.htm. but I couldn't get it to post as a link. Notice that there is no ROAD shown to the top.
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Originally Posted by PenguinDeD
for some reason I read that as tour de fritolay.
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This came up in another thread. There was a photo of a rider – and you could tell that it was a fairly recent picture – on an unpaved road. I couldn’t believe that it was actually the Giro, but someone confirmed that it actually was a recent Giro. They evidently do run the course over unpaved sections from time to time.
The TdF doesn’t go over unpaved roads, does it? I’m talking about modern times – 1970s or later.
The TdF doesn’t go over unpaved roads, does it? I’m talking about modern times – 1970s or later.
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It's good to see that people are starting to realize that the TDF is not the toughest bike race, but just the best marketed Grand Tour.
There are unpaved sections of the Giro, there are stages so high they are up in the snow and ice , many rider use triples, and the fans are even more nuts than at the TDF.
There are unpaved sections of the Giro, there are stages so high they are up in the snow and ice , many rider use triples, and the fans are even more nuts than at the TDF.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
It's good to see that people are starting to realize that the TDF is not the toughest bike race, but just the best marketed Grand Tour.
There are unpaved sections of the Giro, there are stages so high they are up in the snow and ice , many rider use triples, and the fans are even more nuts than at the TDF.
There are unpaved sections of the Giro, there are stages so high they are up in the snow and ice , many rider use triples, and the fans are even more nuts than at the TDF.
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Originally Posted by sirthx
Yeah, but it's like the Indy 500. Certainly not the most interesting race, but nothing comes close in terms of history and driver's desire to win it. I'm reletively new to cycling but I think this is a logical parallel.
Except for the fact that the Indy 500 has become joke since Tony George forced the split between ChampCar and the IRL. It's like having nothing but Continental teams at the TdF. Their fast but not like the ProTour teams. But the parallel of tradition is valid. I like the Giro but the TdF still elicits more passion from the riders and the fans.
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I guess the guys who are supported by Subaru and Audi will have the only team cars on final of that stage! Seriously we might see some cross bikes or hard tail mt bikes being mounted about then!
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Jesus.....don't find too many road bike races climbing up a ski resort.....
There comes a point when you cross the line from something being really hard, to being really stupid.
There comes a point when you cross the line from something being really hard, to being really stupid.
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
In case you did not see it, at cyclingnews.com he said, "In terms of the parcours, Bruyneel isn't too happy with organisers' attempts at igniting even more interest in the race. "This course is really very, very hard and you have to ask yourself - why?" he said.