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    What clincher tire is the closest to tubular performance for a time trial? I do a few time trials a year, either the state championships or in a stage race and do not want to deal with tubulars for just 3- 5 races a year. Also any word on UST for road bikes?

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    Performance speedtrak 700-35.

    High rolling resistance, hard cornering and water resistant.
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    I don't think you could go wrong with Vittoria Open Corsa CS's in a clincher... (Their my personal favorite, but a little spendy).
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    Close to a tubular - The Open Corsa by Vittoria. The Best!

    Next would be the Veloflex tires.

    Performance? Who are you kidding? That is not nearlt the quality as a Vittoria or Veloflex
    Xavier Cintron - www.bullteksports.com

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    "...for a time trial."

    You want the ability to pump in a sick high amount of PSI.

    The Veloflex and Vittoria tires you guys have mentioned may have nice casings and be good for road racing, but they only pump up to about 125 psi. You could try to get away with more, but I've blown the casing up on tires that I tried to overinflate before (it was with a pair of michelins) -- so I don't reccoment that.

    Time trials are generally done on clean roads. If this is the case go with something like 20mm Conti Supersonicks or Vittoria Ultra Speeds. Narrower is more aero, even if it is a bit more uncomfortable. Both of these tires can be pumped to at least 150 psi which is nice and high. If you don't like the idea of riding on special "race only" tires beacause you are heavy or worried of flatting, then I would reccomend Vredestein's Fortezza in 20mm (the Fortezza Tricomp is only available in 23mm). Those go up to 145 psi.

    For cheap prices I always import my tires from the UK from either totalcycling.com or parker-international.co.uk A Fortezza Tricomp from these places costs about $22 American dollars (the prices at Parker's include the UK VAT tax, which you won't have to pay when you're importing) -- that's HALF of what they cost here in the States.

    Hope that helps.

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    Maurizzio,

    Nice that you save money but did you ever think if US distributor went out of business?

    You know people work there and have families to support. Why not help them out.

    It would not be nice if you lost your job because some other compnay sold what you sold cheaper.

    Think about that.
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    Xavier:

    I understand that you own a business, but please try to understand that I am a consumer.

    I'm not a fan of most US distributors unless they're sponsoring me. If they go out of business, it doesn't effect me as a consumer since plenty of overseas distributors are willing to import things to the States directly to my door, and I get HUGE price reductions in doing so. Prices for european manufactured cycling products in this country is so outrageous that it's been years since I've bought a cycling product from a store in this country, except from my LBS where I'm friends with the mannagement, and which gives me prices only slightly higher than wholesale.

    I know that you have a family to support, but so does almost everyone, including the owners of overseas distributors that I DO buy from. The fact that you're American, and they might be English or French, isn't enough persuasion to spend, in some cases, twice as much. I'd have to be a RAGING patriot, and frankly, I'm far from it.

    Although I don't work for a company that sells things, if I did, and I was concerned about loosing customers like myself, then I guess I would be forced to compete with the prices of my competitors (international ones, as the case may be). Competition is ALWAYS good for the consumer.

    My pockets arent lined with money, and neither are most people's. But I do like fancy bike stuff, and for that reason I'll always buy from the place where my dollar goes furthest.

    - Maurizio

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    Well said, Maurizio.

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    You are very right. Who cares what or where you buy, but take note I already seen many fakes on tires hit the market. Far lesser quality.

    DO not forget that you may be that next person asking for sponsorship from that local shop or from that manufacturer. I get tons of emails this time of year people begging for sponsorship. My question many times is WHY?

    Just something to think about.
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    I agree try to get the best deal most of the time. And I believe most of us want to save the most money we can, cycling can get expensive I buy some things from my LBS and some on-line in the US and outside of the US.. I normaly look at the cost difference, If I can get a tire from UK for $20 and $50 from my LBS.. then I'll go overseas.. but if it is $30-$35 I'll get it from my LBS..

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    You are very right. Who cares what or where you buy, but take note I already seen many fakes on tires hit the market. Far lesser quality.
    And how do we know the local LBS isn't selling those for a HUGE profit? It works both ways.

    DO not forget that you may be that next person asking for sponsorship from that local shop or from that manufacturer. I get tons of emails this time of year people begging for sponsorship. My question many times is WHY?
    I haven't dealt with sponsorship on the bike side of things, but I have in other sports, and before I ask somebody to sponsor me, I ask myself if I want to be associated with the company/shop/manufacture. That means when I first walked in your doors did you offer me help and good advice and service? Or did you try and pawn something off on me that I didn't need or was more than I needed? Or did you just ignore me until I had to ask for help? etc and so on. Maybe not everybody is like that, but the last thing I ever want to hear from somebody is something to the effect of "Why do you let those guys sponsor you, they suck!".

    Now if you do all of that, then I'll spend my money with you even if it means spending a little to a lot more money because I know that somewhere/sometime that I'll need some level of service above and beyond the normal. If you don't do it, well your shop just became the browse/emergency supply store and that's it.

    Andrew

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