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Old 08-05-06, 04:53 AM   #1
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Floyd's B sample report is back this morning...

Not a lot of surprises here...

http://velonews.com/news/fea/10646.0.html

B sample is positive, Phloyd's phired by Phonak.
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phloyd's phukked now
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Can't race with pro tour team for 4 years. Phloyd's phucked phor real.
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TYler Hamilton, and now Flandis. It proves that Discovery has a much bettery system of doping than Phonak. The disco boyz don't get caught.
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I'm sure that some shady doctor is going to get fired over this. How long will it take for one of them to sign a book deal and blow the whole thing open?

I'm just surprised that nobody from that little underworld has come forward after getting canned. You know whatever doc was responsible is getting fired, though.
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damn shame... I just don't understand... what sort of victory is it when a person cheats???
well... i guess that means Lance did too huh?...
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with all the dopers being caught they may have to set up a race just for convicted dopers LOL



What I dont understand is how many just refuse to believe how rampant it is, maybe its the elusiveness of what goes on behind the scenes, afterall, cycling/training for races and what goes on during the times when they arent in front of the camera actually racing is largely done in private and off camera, even more so than many other sports. If I had to just make a guess at how prevalent it is, it would shock me if 150-160 guys in the TDF were on or had done something before or during the tour. I know its made it to the domestic pro scene, and even with those guys only making 10k a year the doping still happens.
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I thought this part of the article linked above was interesting:

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Team owner Andy Rihs, also chairman and CEO of Phonak Hearing Systems, said he was now examining the consequences of the Landis affair.

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While Rihs has professed a commitment to anti-doping efforts, he has also quite candidly conceded that even adverse publicity has not hurt his company's bottom line.

"People around the globe automatically associate Phonak with hearing aids and that's solely because of cycling," Rihs told VeloNews during this year's Tour de France. "We have become a real brand. Doping does not diminish that effect at all. In a way, I am glad that there is so much talk about doping in cycling, because it deters big corporations. If they would invest in cycling I wouldn't be able to afford it anymore. And, let's face it - in professional sports, where there is a lot of money involved, you need medical support."
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I said all along i'd wait for the b samples before i called someone a cheater so i guess the tests say it all,to bad. BTW,who was second that now should be the winner and got cheated out of the thrill of it all?
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Can't race with pro tour team for 4 years. Phloyd's phucked phor real.
Maybe Phloyd will show up at one of Phred's rides, a local TT or crit.

That would be phunny.
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CNN is still drumming the innocent until proven guilty even after B test result insinuating Euro's guilty until innocent pattern. It seems like there's nothing left to prove here, especially since it's a pass / fail test. It's all they've played on CNN this am.
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Well I'm very dissapointed in Floyd. I guess he was weak after all. The whole thing is dissapointing actually, from low ethical standard of the riders to low ethical standards of UCI and labarotories that do the testing.

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CNN is still drumming the innocent until proven guilty even after B test result insinuating Euro's guilty until innocent pattern. It seems like there's nothing left to prove here, especially since it's a pass / fail test. It's all they've played on CNN this am.

That's really sickening. I guess CNN and other US media are so well practised at total disinformation (e.g. Israel's portrayed as a victim though shelling civilians in Lebanon) that baking up Phlandis in the face of evidence is nothing to them.

The incredible thing is that if you read his statement published by the times, you can see -- with a close reading -- that he basically repeats the O. Pereiro line "we were all doped, and Phlandis was the strongest..."
Got Phlandis makes me sick. I hope he goes down in Phlames...
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This is sad. I really like Floyd and his approach to cycling. I was hoping that maybe there was some explanation for this - too bad the B sample doesn't reside with a completely different lab. How would you know whether the French spiked the sample or not?

But I agree, if there wasn't tampering involved, then it sseems to suggest they all dope. Do you think it is possible that maybe what happened before stage17 was that he got a blood transfusion of his own cells? and that maybe the blood hadn't been completely "scrubbed" of whatever he was taking at the time?
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But I agree, if there wasn't tampering involved, then it sseems to suggest they all dope. Do you think it is possible that maybe what happened before stage17 was that he got a blood transfusion of his own cells? and that maybe the blood hadn't been completely "scrubbed" of whatever he was taking at the time?
I am not sure of the exact ins and outs of doping, but I know that blood transfusions are very frequent in cycling. Who knows how he did it exactly. The point is, he messed up, and that's why he got caught.

What really irks me is that in the immediate aftermath of the announcement, it sounded like Phlyod was very close to admittng his guilt. he sounded shaky and weak, almost contrite...Then he lawyered up and started sounding like a martyr....
Anyone else notice that drastic change of tone?
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Maybe Phloyd will show up at one of Phred's rides, a local TT or crit.

That would be phunny.
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Well the team isnting waiting,they just fired him.
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I've officially lost the will to care.
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OK, the "PH" stuff has gotta stop!
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Another article: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/08...ing.landis.ap/

Besidestransfusions and injections, you can get synthetic testosterone into your body by way of a patch or just wiping a cream/gel onto your skin.

Its my opinion, since the ICU allows a 4:1 ratio, then cyclists at the highest levels will have experimented on just how to apply that much to their bodies to give them another tiny advantage over those who don't or can't find a doctor to work with. Why not? Its legal.

This doping crap pi$$es me off! It ticks me off that I wasted 23 days watching/taping/recording the TdF for a conclusion that, in an instance, is wiped out by a potential doper. Argggggggh!

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what would really suck is comin' in around 50th and testin' positive.

how far down the GC ya think they'd have to go to find a truly clean rider?
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what would really suck is comin' in around 50th and testin' positive.

how far down the GC ya think they'd have to go to find a truly clean rider?
Go to the last rider in the list....



...and then add one.
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So, was Oscar Pereiro tested after the end of the race? Is the podium tested or just the stage winners?
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Well.... I really wanted to believe him. But the evidence points to his guilt. Looks like he's guilty. I am very saddened by this. It's a shame and a real blow to professional cycling. "Sigh"
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I agree with Hipcycler, the PH stuff has to stop.

And if you want a clean rider, look for one with DNF next to his name.
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