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    Bill Maher is a click

    Bill Maher is a click. that is all.

    sorry for the typo in the tiltle

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    Unless someone can make a credible link of this thread to Road Bike Racing, I'm going to either move it or remove it altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khuon
    Unless someone can make a credible link of this thread to Road Bike Racing, I'm going to either move it or remove it altogether.
    bill maher(a dick either way you look at it) must have made a negative comment about floyd landis, who is a road bike racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog hair
    bill maher(a dick either way you look at it) must have made a negative comment about floyd landis, who is a road bike racer.
    Better. I just saw the post in the Tour de France forum concerning it.
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    Sorry, impulse post. He ask why people were debating about a sport that nobody gave a **** about, ipso facto, he is a dick (IMHO).

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    I fixed the thread title lest someone named Bill Mar become offended.
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    Thank you, I was just going to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowjeep
    Bill Maher is a dick. that is all.

    sorry for the typo in the tiltle
    the sad part is, he thinks he's funny.

    the sadder part is that there are people that think he's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior
    the sad part is, he thinks he's funny.

    the sadder part is that there are people that think he's funny.
    I saw him live in Denver. He said a couple of funny things but by and large he is not funny. His satire is way over the top in live performances. He even uses an outline from a notebook now so he won't forget anyting. Take a look at him and you will see why he says racing is not sport.

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    He didn't say it wasn't a sport. He said it was a sport nobody gives a s**t about. Not exactly true, but it has some truthiness in it.

    I thought it was a hilarious line considering the (soon to not be) TdF champion was sitting next to him. It would have been even funnier if Lance was the guest.

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    "He didn't say it wasn't a sport. He said it was a sport nobody gives a s**t about."

    I didn't hear Bill Maher's comments. But if that is all he said, then there are a ton of American sport's writers and commentators who are d!@k's. I have heard that same comment on just about every nationwide sports stations since the Landis doping scandal began.

    I too hate to hear these type comments, but it is just the reality of living in the U.S. Although we all love the sport of cycling it is not a mainstream sport. Go back 10 years and these same sport shows were laughing at and making fun of Nascar. Now it has become more of a mainstream sport and these guys wouldn't dare to make similar comments because of the backlash they would receive. I keep hoping and wishing that the sport could make a push to be more popular here in the states, and with Lance and all he accomplished it, arguably, was on it's way. Now with this Landis deal it has took a huge hit and probably will never come back to it's status during Lance's domination.

    Sad but true.

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    We are too sensitive of a society. I like being called a "Dick". At least all know I have one if called one! But I am a little less.....no alot less offended by words. When have words became so strong that no one can say what is on their mind?

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    Strangely enough, with the proper back-lighting, he does somewhat resemble that remark. Must be that ridiculous new hairstyle he's sporting.

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    Anyone think that Floyd's troubles might actually be good for American cycling?

    I think that if people believe you have to take performance enhancing drugs to win, it must really be hard. There's enough, "cycling is not a sport, anyone can ride a bike" crap out there. And Lance came back from cancer, and if you can come back from cancer and win the TdF seven times, cycling must be pretty easy. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm saying that might be the perception. Lance made it look easy.

    But Floyd made it look hard. If cycling isn't a sport, why should you have to dope to win? But if you have to dope, it must be tough and therefore have some value as a sport. If Floyd had not tested positive, his story would have gone away as 'another great American cyclist showing American dominance in a European sport.' Of course this is decidedly not the case, but most people don't bother to understand cycling.

    But if Floyd had to cheat, to do something to give him an edge, then it must be a tough sport. I think people can identify with that. There are still plenty of people who cheer for Barry Bonds when he hits a home run.

    In the long run, Floyd's problems may be better for cycling than all of Lance's wins. Not in terms of bike sales, but in terms of audience and people who want to get in the sport. Just a theory.

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    Do you think mainstream America actually sits down and watches the Tour de France? Just look at OLN's ratings this year and you will see the answer is a resounding no. There is no ball to follow, so they don't understand it. It is surprising that NASCAR is so popular, given that there is no ball, but the car at the head of the oval amounts to the same thing.

    The sprints in the last 10 seconds of that stages - Mahr noted that people watch those (on highlights) and I think he is right about that.

    As regards his comments - truth hurts. The fact is nobody does care about watching it - but they do care who wins. Especially if it is an American, it makes them (the American Public) happy and proud.

    Probably a fairly tense situation and his joke lightened the mood - he did his job. Don't have such a thin skin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromulent
    Anyone think that Floyd's troubles might actually be good for American cycling?

    I think that if people believe you have to take performance enhancing drugs to win, it must really be hard. There's enough, "cycling is not a sport, anyone can ride a bike" crap out there. And Lance came back from cancer, and if you can come back from cancer and win the TdF seven times, cycling must be pretty easy. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm saying that might be the perception. Lance made it look easy.

    But Floyd made it look hard. If cycling isn't a sport, why should you have to dope to win? But if you have to dope, it must be tough and therefore have some value as a sport. If Floyd had not tested positive, his story would have gone away as 'another great American cyclist showing American dominance in a European sport.' Of course this is decidedly not the case, but most people don't bother to understand cycling.

    But if Floyd had to cheat, to do something to give him an edge, then it must be a tough sport. I think people can identify with that. There are still plenty of people who cheer for Barry Bonds when he hits a home run.

    In the long run, Floyd's problems may be better for cycling than all of Lance's wins. Not in terms of bike sales, but in terms of audience and people who want to get in the sport. Just a theory.
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    Maher is hilarious, he says things that the red states don't like to hear. People who don't find him funny don't get it.

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    Wow, you guys are just figuring out that he is a jerk now? Old news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Maher is hilarious, he says things that the red states don't like to hear. People who don't find him funny don't get it.
    I am a dyed in the wool progressive (even though I live in a VERY republican state). If you have ever seen him live, nearly all of his act is intended to see how outrageous he can be and toward whom he can hurl the biggest insult. Much of the "act" is totally offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
    I am a dyed in the wool progressive (even though I live in a VERY republican state). If you have ever seen him live, nearly all of his act is intended to see how outrageous he can be and toward whom he can hurl the biggest insult. Must of the "act" is totally offensive.
    Not at all like Rush Limbaugh, the hero of intellectual understatement and balanced truth in journalism.

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    I'm more impressed that Landis didn't flip out. Imagine Lance

    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin
    He said a couple of funny things but by and large he is not funny.
    +1

    A satire/sarcasm here and there makes a funny performance. But if that's your whole bit, meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Not at all like Rush Limbaugh, the hero of intellectual understatement and balanced truth in journalism.
    I think both Maher and Limbaugh are aware they are actually entertainers rather than serious commentators. Indeed their actual politics may be reflected in the way they express themselves. I suspect though that they would be equally adept at lampooning from the other political perspective as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webist
    I think both Maher and Limbaugh are aware they are actually entertainers rather than serious commentators. Indeed their actual politics may be reflected in the way they express themselves. I suspect though that they would be equally adept at lampooning from the other political perspective as well.
    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webist
    I think both Maher and Limbaugh are aware they are actually entertainers rather than serious commentators. Indeed their actual politics may be reflected in the way they express themselves. I suspect though that they would be equally adept at lampooning from the other political perspective as well.
    you can't really reason with DocRay in regards to anything american. this is someone who thinks everyone who lives in a "red state" worships rush limbaugh and carries an assault *****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog hair
    you can't really reason with DocRay in regards to anything american. this is someone who thinks everyone who lives in a "red state" worships rush limbaugh and carries an assault *****.
    Nah, only like 80%. Or at least enough to vote Rebuplicans in, twice.

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