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    T-Mobile internal testing - Finally a measure of accountability??

    Interesting story from VeloNews... http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/10672.0.html

    T-Mobile is looking to internally test its riders. This kind of accountability is very much needed. The teams need to be the front line of knowing their own are clean.

    Hopefully this would in the future put the onus for positive tests not only on a rider, but on the team, as well. If teams are more active in keeping their riders and corporate sponsors images clean, then it could go a long way in restoring the peloton to credibility.

    It's a risky move by T-Mobile, but ultimately could be bold enough to work.

    (Yeah, yeah, I know it won't stop doping. This is more about finally having teams step up and accept some responsibility and not leaving it up to individual riders to battle alone against the UCI / WADA / Court of Sporting Arbitration / Lawyers.)

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    IMO part of the issue is the fact that as soon as a rider tests positive and it is confirmed that it is positive the teat is required to fire them. I have a VERY hard time believing that the teams have no knowledge of what is going on and from what I have read the teams are a big part of the problem. Rather than being required to fire the ride if they test positive the UCI need to hold the team accountable for that positive test.
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    Lip Service, Spin etc...
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    It sounds like they're just experimenting with this new test, so if any of the T-Mobile boys pop up positive I'm sure the next VeloNews report will be T-Mob saying that the test isn't reliable.

    Unless the results of any internal medical evaluations are made public, it sounds like a nice way of spinning things, i.e. the teams are probably just checking regularly to make sure their riders don't come up positive in competition.

    And to think I used to believe in Santa Claus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothie104
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    To be sure. That's obvious.

    What I'm wondering is that if T-Mobile says they are going to internally test at some point, does the UCI then hold T-Mobile partially liable if one of their riders comes up positive at a control?

    If yes, then that to me is an improvement. There has been enough of letting riders swing out in the wind to wither away, while teams claim to be ignorant of their own rider's doping.

    Make the teams accountable, as well. Let's see some penalties for them, too. The more accountability there is, the better. Teams claiming to 'not know' should know better with the money they are shelling out to represent sponsors in a positive manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It sounds like they're just experimenting with this new test, so if any of the T-Mobile boys pop up positive I'm sure the next VeloNews report will be T-Mob saying that the test isn't reliable.

    Unless the results of any internal medical evaluations are made public, it sounds like a nice way of spinning things, i.e. the teams are probably just checking regularly to make sure their riders don't come up positive in competition.

    And to think I used to believe in Santa Claus.

    Bingo. But it seems it has already worked. If they did this without announcing it people would be asking the right questions. AS it now stands T-mob can test as much as they want and be viewed as fighting doping rather than carefully monitoring doping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It sounds like they're just experimenting with this new test, so if any of the T-Mobile boys pop up positive I'm sure the next VeloNews report will be T-Mob saying that the test isn't reliable.

    Unless the results of any internal medical evaluations are made public, it sounds like a nice way of spinning things, i.e. the teams are probably just checking regularly to make sure their riders don't come up positive in competition.

    And to think I used to believe in Santa Claus.
    There is a scene in "Overcoming" when Basso is on the bike and Riis takes a blood sample by nicking his ear, I remember wondering what that sample was for, it couldn't have been a lactate test, he was at rest.
    I think for sponsors, being associated with doping riders is worse than being associated with a losing team.
    What does one think when they hear "Festina"? Watches? or doping?

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