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Old 08-20-06, 11:03 AM   #1
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so.... any more advice?

Yes I have been creating a lot of newb posts lately but its Sunday and I am at work, bored, and exicted/nervous about my first race in 3 days.

Ive been reading through this sub forum a lot and pulling all the advice I can. This was a pretty good thread for it First Cat 5 Race - Am I going to get Smoked?.

I already know that I am going to get blown away somewhere between the 1st and 4th lap.

I know I should try to stay in the front 1/4 or 1/3 but not in THE front.

I need to keep passing people because if I dont I will end up in the back in no time since positioning is constantly changing.

Avoid the back because of the dreaded accordian affect and the ensuing sprint intervals after every corner.

When pushed off the back of the pack if I want to entertain any possibility of catching backup I better stand up and hammer away for 20 seconds. Otherwise just wait for the group to come back round since this is a training crit.

Expect lots of contact riding in the pack.

Keep my head up off the wheel in front of me and looking instead to course/riders ahead to predict movement/changes in speed.

Hold my line in the corners. I plan on trying to just stay behind a good rider to keep my line proper I suppose.

Dont brake going into corners but expect to brake anyway since cat 5's do it all the time anyway. If I do need to brake use the front and not the back so I dont lock up.

dont overlap wheels, no sudden movements, etc

I think Its kind of ironic worrying about all these details when most likely I wont be in the race long enough to really worry about them.


so what else should I know? I understand I am most likely not fit enough to hang since I havent been training for racing but I also know if I dont just try it anyway I may never have the proper motivation to really start training.

I am going to do some sprint intervals tomorrow during lunch in a feeble attempt to somewhat perpare myself for what I am getting myself into on Wednesday evening.

My goal is really just not to crash or get yelled at too much and see how long I can hang on and let the overall experience infect me for later.
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Old 08-20-06, 12:10 PM   #2
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sounds like you covered pretty much everything. just be smooth with your movements, hold your line, pay attention and you should be fine.

without interval training so far you're probably going to be blown out of the water pretty quickly. that's okay, you'll learn a lot even if you can only hang for a few mintues.
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Old 08-20-06, 12:47 PM   #3
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One final piece of advice, a basic summary of all the point you mention. --- RUBBER SIDE DOWN. (especially if you find yourself in the pack next to this guy on a Flyte. )

See you wednesday!
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My best advice. Have fun. It's the reason to be there.
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One final piece of advice, a basic summary of all the point you mention. --- RUBBER SIDE DOWN. (especially if you find yourself in the pack next to this guy on a Flyte. )

See you wednesday!
doc i am totally going to find you and try to follow you the entire time
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Communicate...If you are next to and to a little behind another rider and there is a turn coming up make sure he knows you are there. If the pack is slowing and there are riders on your wheel make sure they hear you yell SLOWING!!!!!
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May I suggest NOT to overthink?
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May I suggest NOT to overthink?
Too late.
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haha i hate you guys I am not going to be thinking much once the race starts. I was just trying to kill time and quench my excitement on slow work day.

i cant wait!
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Don't forget to P.

Have you thought of how you're going to warm up? Are you bringing a trainer? I'm assuming this is an afterwork crit. If I remember N. VA/DC and afternoon rush hour, I'd be surprised if there was any roads suitable for warming up (that weren't packed bumber to bumber).

Good luck and have fun.
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The course is open for warming up. The race is in a park so traffic is really a non-issue.
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I am off wednesday so i should have plenty of time to warm up
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Best advice so far is to not overthink things. Pay attention and process the information you are receiving, but if you muddle your racing with keeping "lists" in your head you won't be able to react fast enough when you need to. The KISS principle is a good one. Broken down into its barest essence: Stay on a good wheel. Don't waste any energy.

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When pushed off the back of the pack if I want to entertain any possibility of catching backup I better stand up and hammer away for 20 seconds. Otherwise just wait for the group to come back round since this is a training crit.
One other point, when you fall off the back (notice, I said "when", not "if"), relax, slow down, recover, and wait for the pack to come around again so you can hop back on. Fight the urge to time-trial to see how long you can avoid being lapped. You'll use yourself up and won't have anything left for hopping back on. Your greatest learning experience will come from riding IN the pack, not trying to stay away from it.

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Let me be the first to say congrats to Riskus for finishing his 1st race, and hanging in there for a strong few laps! No getting lapped for him, oh no! I think there may be a report pending, so I'll leave it at that for now, but his first race performance was much stronger than mine... As for me, my weight training starts next week so I can actually build the strength to win a sprint. I had a perfect leadout, but got caught in some bumping and ran out of steam at the line--came in 9th. Ugh.
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Stay out of the jogger's lane.
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Let me be the first to say congrats to Riskus for finishing his 1st race, and hanging in there for a strong few laps! No getting lapped for him, oh no! I think there may be a report pending, so I'll leave it at that for now, but his first race performance was much stronger than mine... As for me, my weight training starts next week so I can actually build the strength to win a sprint. I had a perfect leadout, but got caught in some bumping and ran out of steam at the line--came in 9th. Ugh.
I'm sure you will be prepared to come good on Saturday when it counts.
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