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    Money will buy anyone, just ask Sastre

    So this new race in the Abu Dhabi will be the richest event in the world and will come in early Nov, two weeks after Lombardy. Sastre sounded thrilled about it and thought it would be a great event to attend, even though, that is a time of year most cyclists will be savoring a well deserved break.

    This is my point. Quite often, we can't even get these guys to ride the World Champs in Sep/Oct! One of the ultimate prizes in our sport. Always the same excuses about racing started months prior and what. Even though, most of the peloton these days is much more specialized and race far fewer days than their predecessors.

    WTF - so money will get you to extend your season? and a gold medal for your country means squat? Guess I'm just sick of the new generation babies and their flippin' "A" races. What happened to wanting to win everything and racing a full season, including Worlds. Money will buy anyone.

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    yes. It will.

    I for one am glad for anything that makes the season longer and shortens the doping scandals and contract trading season, formerly known as the off-season
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    What makes you think Abu Dhabi has money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMCA
    Guess I'm just sick of the new generation babies and their flippin' "A" races. What happened to wanting to win everything and racing a full season, including Worlds. Money will buy anyone.
    Had this kind of money been offered in 1970, the outcome would be the same. It's a huge payday, why would anybody pass it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1slowbastard
    Had this kind of money been offered in 1970, the outcome would be the same. It's a huge payday, why would anybody pass it up?
    My point is, riders have been skipping Worlds because they say it too late in the year, but watch how many keep riding now, lured by late season cash.

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    This might be one of the dumbest rants I've seen on this forum in a while.

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    Well...A potential benefit might be more racers doing the Worlds, if only to keep form so they can chase the big $ in the desert a month later.

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    I like the idea, it'll get some really big names out for a winner takes all (or most) of the prize money race. Should be exciting. Nothing motivates like the almighty dollar

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    I agree you might see more racers working through worlds now. If you're going to have to stay in shape out of the fall classics into November, might as well take a shot at worlds in the process.
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    Well, it's not like a lot of the guys make a lot of money to begin with, so why not....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
    Well, it's not like a lot of the guys make a lot of money to begin with, so why not....
    Yes thats correct. If you want a truely professional sport where elite athletes come out to play at worlds etc then show them the rightful money.

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    It's pretty nifty; the UAE is totally diving in to sport in a massive way. The Duabi Asian Games which just ended were considered by some to be an Olympic-calibre production and they have big goals for the Beijing Olympics. There was a quite good BBC programme on their Documentary Archive podcast in the past couple of weeks about UAE sport.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tekhna
    This might be one of the dumbest rants I've seen on this forum in a while.
    the year is still young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMCA
    Sastre sounded thrilled about it...Guess I'm just sick of the new generation babies and their flippin' "A" races.
    Sastre rode all three Grand Tours this year and two of them he contended for the win. I suppose he should have worn a leather jockstrap riddled with nails to prove himself as worthy of your respect, but he has mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinokurtov
    Sastre rode all three Grand Tours this year and two of them he contended for the win. I suppose he should have worn a leather jockstrap riddled with nails to prove himself as worthy of your respect, but he has mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinokurtov
    Sastre rode all three Grand Tours this year and two of them he contended for the win. I suppose he should have worn a leather jockstrap riddled with nails to prove himself as worthy of your respect, but he has mine.
    I suppose I used the wrong example in Sastre. Really the thread was about why so many boys skip the WC every year, due to it being in Sep/Oct. I've seen years where our own USA has no representation from our ProTour riders and we had to go and grab up guys that had been doing crits all year back in Cali.

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    The worlds should be moved back to the end of August, which is when they used to be held.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1
    The worlds should be moved back to the end of August, which is when they used to be held.
    +1

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    Plus the Vuelta should be cut back to 17 days, just like it used to be. It doesn't need to be three weeks. Twenty-one days just means four more days of crap boring stages across Andalusia and La Mancha anyway.

    And I should be running the UCI instead of that bog jumper thats in the role at the moment with puppetmaster Hein Verbruggens hand shoved up his backside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1
    Plus the Vuelta should be cut back to 17 days, just like it used to be. It doesn't need to be three weeks. Twenty-one days just means four more days of crap boring stages across Andalusia and La Mancha anyway.

    And I should be running the UCI instead of that bog jumper thats in the role at the moment with puppetmaster Hein Verbruggens hand shoved up his backside.
    Would that be a pay cut to the riders? I mean are riders on say a 'base' salary and then get 'race fees' when they get a ride in the grand tours etc? If so you wouldnt be too popular would you?

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    Modern riders can get stuffed. They are softco... weak compared to the old days. If they dont like it they can always go back to plowing rocks on the family farm, work as chimney sweeps or work in a factory ......

    Bernard Hinault says things like this all the time so it must be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1
    Modern riders can get stuffed. They are softco... weak compared to the old days. If they dont like it they can always go back to plowing rocks on the family farm, work as chimney sweeps or work in a factory ......

    Bernard Hinault says things like this all the time so it must be true.
    Were the good ole days the non-drug testing days?

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    They were the 'race 150 times a year on the road for crap money then race five six-days on the track during the winter or work shoveling coal on a canal barge in the off season' days. The drug use was .....if not excusable it was understandable.

    Plus global warming has stuffed up the spring classics and made the modern rider a wuss. IIRC the last truly apocalyptic Tour of Flanders was 1989 and the last really wet Paris-Roubaix was 1994. Liege-Bastongne-Liege is supposed to be run is a blizzard, not in weather where the riders get a tan. Nowadays if the riders see a snow flurry they want to stop the race. GLOBAL WARMING IS WRECKING THE SPORT IMHO!!!
    Last edited by classic1; 01-15-07 at 06:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1
    Nowadays if the riders see a snow flurry they want to stop the race.
    like het volk in 2004?

    Last edited by botto; 01-15-07 at 06:57 AM.

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    Thats a great shot!!!

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