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    Back to Back Crit Advice?

    First crit of the year coming up and I'm planning to race in both the 4/5 and the Masters 35+ races. Last summer I did the same and had a pretty good result in both races (even won a prime in the second race). But in that race, I had a 2 hour break between rides.

    The problem is that in Saturday's race, they're back to back. Anybody had a similar experience? Any advice?
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    stay on the course during the intermission, and keep your legs moving, make sure your well hydrated before the 2nd one.
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    Choose which is more important. Sit in the pack in the unimportant one and get the training time and a possible sprint win or some primes. In the other just balls to the wall racing. Oh, and don't foget to overhydrate and eat.

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    Yeah, I actually think the 35+ race will be faster over all, but a faster and sketchier sprint in the 4/5.

    So, sit in during the 35+ and try to get out in front in the 4/5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso
    First crit of the year coming up and I'm planning to race in both the 4/5 and the Masters 35+ races. Last summer I did the same and had a pretty good result in both races (even won a prime in the second race). But in that race, I had a 2 hour break between rides.

    The problem is that in Saturday's race, they're back to back. Anybody had a similar experience? Any advice?
    i used to race the 3/4 and the 3s, or the 3/4 and the 1/2/3s. advice? it's better to do it for training, not results. if you're looking for results, choose the race and field where you think you have the best shot.
    Last edited by botto; 01-19-07 at 03:33 AM.

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    No, it's for training. And upgrading to Cat 4. So, maybe I'll just shoot for finishing in one piece.
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    are you sure they'll let you race the Masters 35. Supposedly ther going to crack down on 5's in Masters at least in our area this year.

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    There's a HUGE difference between cat-4/5 race vs. Masters-35+. It's like the difference between a cat-4/5 race vs. the cat-1/2/pros race... If you can hang in the Masters-35+, you should've upgraded to cat-3 by now...

    Anyway, aim for winning the cat-4/5 race. Then just sit in and complete the Masters-35+ in the pack. If you can finish that race, that's good enough for now really...

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    Did a bunch of those last year. Just make sure you stay fed and hydrated. Me, I went for it in both and came up with some good results in both several times.

    And make sure you get to the start before they drop the flag. Last year at Wente they sent the second race off a minute after I had finished the first and I didn't make it around for the start.
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    Oh, and around here they use different numbers for different races. Have a second jersey with the number prepinned so you can swap shirts (and thus numbers) quickly.

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    The Masters sprint will be decidedly faster, and theoretically safer.
    I would suggest sitting in the 35+ and watch how they race, and go for position in the Cat 4/5.


    IMO, it's actually better to have them back-to-back than to have the two-hour break. Warning to the young: when your body shuts down, it's gets increasingly harder to get it going again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell
    Oh, and around here they use different numbers for different races. Have a second jersey with the number prepinned so you can swap shirts (and thus numbers) quickly.
    Good idea. Smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso
    First crit of the year coming up and I'm planning to race in both the 4/5 and the Masters 35+ races. Last summer I did the same and had a pretty good result in both races (even won a prime in the second race). But in that race, I had a 2 hour break between rides.

    The problem is that in Saturday's race, they're back to back. Anybody had a similar experience? Any advice?
    I did that last year at Land Park. The 35+ was first and I wasted a lot of energy up front and trying to break away, but it ended up in a pack sprint and I was toast.

    I came back a few hours later in the 2nd 4/5 race which was much slower than the 35+ and broke away with another guy who beat me in a sprint, but I was thrilled with 2nd.

    My advice would be to try to sit in and save energy for the first half of the 4/5 race and then really go for it in the second half. In between just keep pedaling easy and have a gu and some water or electrolyte drink. If the 35+ is like it was last year the speed will be very fast for the first few laps. Just try to stay tucked in and hope you have something left for the end.

    I kind of wish I was going, but I'll be putting in long miles this weekend.
    Plenty more crits coming up in February.

    Good luck!

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    Forget about the 4/5 race(one less person for me to watch pull away in the sprint ) and focus on the masters.

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    Well, as it turned out, I was only able to do one race. Even though I showed up to register at 7:45, the Cat 4/5 field was full. They added a second 4/5 at 2pm, but I wasn't going to be able to stick around. Anyway, the Masters 35 was Category 1 to 5.

    After I stopped freaking out and started riding, things went pretty well. I had good legs, I was able to stay up front, and even chased down a break at one point. I missed the group that pulled away for the win but I was solidly in the main field. I'll take that as a very successful race for me.
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