Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-03-07, 04:14 PM   #1
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
CAT-3 O-Meter: 60%

As you guys can see from Zimbo's post - the 4/5 race at the Wake County Speedway today was pretty crash heavy. The race was neutralized and restarted three times due to crashes. There were a lot of broken bike parts, and one guy dislocated his shouler. I stayed near the front, and luckily stayed out of all the crashes. A team mate wasn't so lucky. No physical damage, but his bike was worse for wear.

By the time the field restarted the third time I had the kind of "oh gawd I don't wanna friggin' die" butterflies I've only had while tossing my stupid butt out of a perfectly good airplane. There was only about 10 minutes left in the race at that time, and I didn't want to work a field sprint (my strength) with some of the guys in that field. Earlier, I had tried a solo bridge up to a 2 man break, but fell short - and when I felt an impending bonk after about 10 minutes of solo suffering sat up and got back into the field. Unfortunately the two guys ended up lapping the field. That said though, I still had some good gas left in the tank, and when it got to two laps left to go I attacked hard, but two guys came by with about 100 meters left, and I got 3rd out of the field, and 5th overall. Two upgrade points, and another top ten in the bank.

After the first race I was a little tired, and when I went back to my car to down a powerbar, I got halfway through it before my gut decided to rebel and banish its chocolatey contents. Whoopie. Chicks dig sweaty guys throwing up while wearing spandex. I drank some fluids and got back on the track to keep the legs warm for the 3/4 race.

The 3/4 field was a little smaller, due mostly to the cold, windy weather I imagine. The race started out fairly fast, and I was starting to have my calves cramp up pretty badly. I decided to stop trying to cover breaks, as I was afraid I'd cramp hard and have to drop from the race. Of course, when I decide to do that, 4 guys lap the field The wind was picking up, and I wasn't feeling strong for a sprint - trying to manage the cramping was getting hard.

Then came the hardest 8 minutes of the year...when I saw a guy launch off the front with about 8 minutes left to go, I decided to use my other strong system - 5ish minute power. I attacked, and held it. I didn't catch the other rider, but at the same time I was able to stay off the front of the field for those 8 minutes. It really, really helped to have people cheering for me - it would have been so much easier to sit up - it wouldn't have hurt so bad - but damnit, I wanted it. I rolled across the line alone with a shake of the fist, and 6th place One upgrade point, and another top ten.

So, to recap this year's races:

27JAN: 6th place 4/5, 7th place 3/4
3FEB: 5th place 4/5, 6th place 3/4

Last season I did 18 CAT-4 races with only two top tens, and no points. I'd say the thousands of miles I've laid down during winter's training has paid off Now, hi-ho, hi-ho it's off to surgery I go. I will, will get up to CAT-3 by July. I'm 4 top tens or 16 points away.

And for the power geeks:

Race 1:
249 watts avg, 313 normalized. These numbers are screwed up, as the field kept getting neutralized.
1018 watts max - an 800 meter finishing effort will do that

Race 2:
300 watts avg, 318 normalized
996 watts max - who needs to sprint when you're soloing off the front...
8 minute solo finish 351 watts avg, 355 normalized.

New 20 minute power high set @ 311 watts avg, 325 normalized.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 04:22 PM   #2
pcates
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto
Bikes:
Posts: 762
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
congrats!! not a bad start to the 2007 race year!
pcates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 04:54 PM   #3
zimbo
Senior Member
 
zimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Bikes:
Posts: 2,040
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Good job, man. Best wishes with the surgery and we'll see you out there when you've recovered. What's the rehab timeframe?

--Steve
zimbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 05:04 PM   #4
branman1986
Eternal Cat3 Rookie
 
branman1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Bikes: 2004 Giant TCR2 Composite & 2006 Fuji Touring
Posts: 1,167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
let's hope for a speedy recovery so we can read similar race reports(or better!) later in the season!
branman1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 06:41 PM   #5
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks guys.

As for the rehab time frame, I had my first ACL operation done September 29th. I was on the trainer 12 days after that, and on the road 5 weeks later (too early...). I should be back in racing form in mid/late May.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 06:57 PM   #6
zimbo
Senior Member
 
zimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Bikes:
Posts: 2,040
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
I should be back in racing form in mid/late May.
Dragon's Challenge?

I'm going to hopefully get in enough starts to be a 4 by then. Yeah, I know you're just scared sh!tless at the thought of it, aren't you...

--Steve
zimbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 07:04 PM   #7
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimbo
Dragon's Challenge?

I'm going to hopefully get in enough starts to be a 4 by then. Yeah, I know you're just scared sh!tless at the thought of it, aren't you...

--Steve
Yeah man, I really want to do the Dragon's Challenge. It's in my back yard...I put untold thousands of miles on my truck last year driving to races in NC/GA/SC/FL (in that order). How can I pass up a race 5 miles down the road? Hopefully I can get a circle track crit or two in at Ace or Winston/Salem before hand to get my legs under me.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 07:21 PM   #8
recneps
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ehhh people were careless out there, there was one wreck on a neutral lap where a rider went form the bottom of the field to the top and took out a riders front wheel.

Anyways good racing man.

Planning on doing the greenville seris?

Also I think I parked next to you and borrowed your pump, was that you?
recneps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 07:22 PM   #9
zimbo
Senior Member
 
zimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Bikes:
Posts: 2,040
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
recneps, I meant to look for you but with the crash I totally forgot. What were you wearing again?

I hate to say it but I think Snuff's teammate is the one who caused the neutral lap crash. That one was wild. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

And speaking of cry... During that second crash that took out the two guys who had lapped the field (!!!!) one guy was down for quite a while and his wife was in the stands watching. She had a complete meltdown. It was crazy to watch. I sure wish I'd had my HD video camera with me. That would have made for some great YouTube footage.

--Steve
zimbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 07:26 PM   #10
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by recneps
ehhh people were careless out there, there was one wreck on a neutral lap where a rider went form the bottom of the field to the top and took out a riders front wheel.

Anyways good racing man.

Planning on doing the greenville seris?

Also I think I parked next to you and borrowed your pump, was that you?
Indeed. I think you asked me if I was Steve

I'd love to do G-ville, but alas I need to get my knee fixed sometime.

Steve: I don't know who caused the neutral lap crash - team mate didn't say anything...it was bad, bad ju ju whoever crashed though.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 08:23 PM   #11
zimbo
Senior Member
 
zimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Bikes:
Posts: 2,040
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Oh I meant to ask... Did you hear me yelling at you when you were going solo in that bridge attempt?

--Steve
zimbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 08:59 PM   #12
brianappleby
Senior Member?
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver
Bikes: orbea onix, Cervelo SLC, Specialzed Allez, Cervelo P3 Alu
Posts: 1,975
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
how much do you weigh WR? i'm trying to compare wattage numbers.
brianappleby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 09:17 PM   #13
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Steve, I did man - thanks for the support. It helps when you're in suck-ville.

Brian, I'm 80kg. So, in essence my numbers say I really, really suck. Those oft quoted category charts don't account for racing smart though
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 09:56 PM   #14
zimbo
Senior Member
 
zimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Bikes:
Posts: 2,040
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Those oft quoted category charts don't account for racing smart though
They also don't account for the erratic nature of crits in general. I'm as a big of a power meter geek as you're gonna find out there but average power means almost absolutely nothing in a crit unless there are stretches (like a solo breakaway) where you can stay aerobic for an appreciable length of time.

20 minutes at 300 watts after 70 minutes of crit racing is solid. The fact that a highly motivated 3/4 field was not able to catch you is evidence of that.

--Steve
zimbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 11:06 PM   #15
Snuffleupagus
Aut Vincere Aut Mori
Thread Starter
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Bikes: Irish Cycles Tir na Nog, Jack Kane Team Racing, Fuji Aloha 1.0, GT Karakoram, Motobecane Fly Team
Posts: 4,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Got a pic from one of the guys I was up there with. Myself and another guy from my club - both suffering like dogs

The grimace on my face tells the story of cold, dehydrated, glycogen depleted calf muscles better than I can type it out...

EDIT: Eek, operation skinny arms has been a success. And the guys at the office mocked me when I was having trouble with a 25lb dumbell, they thought I was kidding
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 3FEB07 Sneer of Pain.JPG (99.0 KB, 58 views)
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-07, 11:32 PM   #16
TheKillerPenguin
Nonsense
 
TheKillerPenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vagabond
Bikes: Affirmative
Posts: 12,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 88 Post(s)
Nice going Snuff!
TheKillerPenguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-07, 12:19 AM   #17
Stallionforce
Senior Member
 
Stallionforce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Victoria
Bikes: 05 Norco CRR Team Carbon Dura Ace, 06 Cervelo P2C TT Dura Ace, 88 Olmo Steelie w. Campy Mirage, Cypress CX w. 105
Posts: 1,372
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Solid showing. Sorry to hear you lost your lunch but it seems that the mission objective was achieved.
Stallionforce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-07, 03:28 AM   #18
Greg180
Realist
 
Greg180's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Bikes: Roubaix, Tarmac, Fixed Gear
Posts: 3,083
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Good SITREP Snuff and congrats. Hope the ACL repair goes well and the top 10s keep coming.
Greg180 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-07, 07:03 AM   #19
GuitarWizard
Used to be a climber..
 
GuitarWizard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Baldwin, ME
Bikes: 2016 Ridley Fenix SL, 2013 PedalForce RS3-ISP, 2015 Trek 520 Disc
Posts: 6,834
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
.

Brian, I'm 80kg.
In America, how much do you weigh?
GuitarWizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-07, 10:11 AM   #20
Compressed
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
Multiply by 2.2 to convert Kg to pounds.

...so 176 lbs.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-07, 11:37 AM   #21
recneps
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimbo
recneps, I meant to look for you but with the crash I totally forgot. What were you wearing again?
Red jacket with a black jersey over top black shorts and legwarmers, on a blue CAAD 8.
recneps is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:43 PM.