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Old 05-09-03, 01:46 PM   #1
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Giro d'Italia

Who does everyone think will win the Giro and what stage does everyone think Cipollini will set the record (if at all of course)?
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Old 05-09-03, 02:43 PM   #2
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Simoni and Cipo ties the record on day #1
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Simoni and Cipo ties the record on day #1
Those were the exact results that I expect as well. Anyone predict something else? It could be a while before the Lion King breaks the record (assuming he wins the opening stage) because of all the mountain stages introduced this year. Any thoughts about how that will affect if Cipo breaks the record? (assuming again of course, that he ties the record in the first stage as everyone seems to predict, even the race organizers)??
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An Italian will win! How's that for going out on a limb?
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I'm bummed out that Quaranta is not doing the giro, he's a great sprinter and easy on the eyes! Apparenlty he's not up for it, probably they'll save him for the giro.

It's a safe bet that Cipo breaks the record and then some. My money is on simoni, but they say watch out for Gonzales.
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I'm bummed out that Quaranta is not doing the giro, he's a great sprinter and easy on the eyes! Apparenlty he's not up for it, probably they'll save him for the giro.

It's a safe bet that Cipo breaks the record and then some. My money is on simoni, but they say watch out for Gonzales.
Agreed! Tiger in the bushes - waiting to pounce!

Aww ok, I admit it, GO CIPO!!
(He'll surpass 43 stage wins in stage 9).

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Old 05-09-03, 08:33 PM   #7
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Aitor will win the giro in the time trials, Cipo will break the record by stage 5.
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I'm rooting for Stefano Garzelli ...he was kicking ass last year until his sudden suspension...

Buuut, I think Fassa Bortolo will have a very strong team with Gonzalez and Frigo...I'm not sure Aitor is in form enough to climb with the best though...

Should be exciting though...I can't wait for the hours of coverage
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I think cipo will take the opening stage, its like him to get the big spot light, will be fun to watch!
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I was reading that the organizing committee changed the first stage lay out to make it a flatter stage. They are hoping that Cipo wins it for more publicity.
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Old 05-11-03, 06:00 PM   #11
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I honestly couldn't help but laugh when I saw Pantani leading the field with a grin on his face. That evil man
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Old 05-12-03, 02:12 PM   #12
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ok, I'm a late entry but here goes.
I like Garzelli, the way he pip'd all the sprinters
today was brilliant.
Cipo ties binda in stage 6
gets 42 in stage 8
gets 43 in stage 11
if he drags his butt across the dolomites
he gets number 44 in Milano.

oh yeah, Robbie McEwan gets the bloody jersey
for most combative

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Hahah... McEwen really has nerves of steel. Sprinting really is not for the nervous. However, he's going to have to eventually try to win without being dirty!
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Ive gotta say, those finishes are stressful. All that josseling around to get a good position. I know its asking a lot of OLN , but it would be great to be able to hear the news conferences after the race. Phil kept jazzin up the move that Pantani made with his team and how Cipo was going to have some choice words, well - lets hear those words. The only times I see these riders is when there riding, I would love to get some after stage feedback.
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My bet is for Simoni to win. He can climb and TT with the best. Aitor is good but I don't think his form is up- no racing in his legs for a long time.
Garzelli is excellent and if he can get away on the mountains, maybe he has a shot but he can't TT and you aren't going to make alot, if any, time on Simoni in the mountains.

I'm glad Petacchi is maglia rosa. He is Cipo's successor- not the pure sprinter but more like Friere. Anyway, he's the fastest Italian in my book.
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Simoni can TT with the Best!?!?!? Garzelli will lose time to Simoni in the TT's!?!?!?

Ummmmm... I think not. Do you remember the final TT in 2000?

I'm not suggesting that Garzelli can TT that well, but let's face it, Simoni certainly can't either.

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Stage 4: Marco Pantani finishes 9th

Surely a misprint!
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I'm going to save this message so I can laugh at you after the Giro is over

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Simoni can TT with the Best!?!?!? Garzelli will lose time to Simoni in the TT's!?!?!?

Ummmmm... I think not. Do you remember the final TT in 2000?

I'm not suggesting that Garzelli can TT that well, but let's face it, Simoni certainly can't either.

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Stage 4: Marco Pantani finishes 9th

Surely a misprint!
Yeah on stage 2 (I think?) when I checked the results on the website, I thought it said Pantani finished last, 25 minutes behind the field... but I looked back later and noticed I read the name wrongly :funone:
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It's the Giro. Anything's possible.
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That's why the Giro is my favorite of the grand tours. It's not dominated by one person- almost no one ever wins the giro more than once, and there aren't five time consecutive winners like the Tour. And it's less of a circus, it's more fun- and then there's the incredible italian scenery.
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That's why the Giro is my favorite of the grand tours. It's not dominated by one person- almost no one ever wins the giro more than once, and there aren't five time consecutive winners like the Tour. And it's less of a circus, it's more fun- and then there's the incredible italian scenery.
Well, there are no five-time champs in large part because winning it once establishes a rider as a TdF threat and their team changes their structure (season goals). Salvodelli, for example, didn't bother to try to defend his title because winning once enabled him to sign a lucrative contract and focus on the TdF with his new team.

As Beloki said, it's better to finish second in the TdF than to win the Vuelta. The same applies to the Giro. This attitude has been noted as a threat to the sport as a whole by more than one "big name" but at the moment it is simply a fact.

I, too, greatly enjoy the event but I wish that the three grand tours each had the status of the TdF.
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That's great easyrider.
A real triple crown of grand tours and other excellent races such as Langkawi could grow to a higher uci status.
It would be great for cycling globally.
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Cipo is getting more and more problems to tie Alfredo Binda´s record of 41 stage wins. What´s wrong with him ? Did the Lion King lose his claws ?
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Cipo is getting more and more problems to tie Alfredo Binda´s record of 41 stage wins. What´s wrong with him ? Did the Lion King lose his claws ?
I've kind of been thinking the same thing. Cipo just doesn't
seem to have it this year. I'm guessing he retires soon,
passing the mantle of best sprinter to Petacchi.
but I'm sure gonna miss him when he is gone,
the rolled up sleeves and legs of his shorts was a hoot.

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