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    practicing for a rainy crit?

    so my first race ever (also the first collegiate race of the year out here in the midwest) will be next week, and for the day of the crit there is a forecast of rain. im terrified of crashing and was wondering if there were any suggestions for prepping for this rainy crit. would practicing doing turns on wet surfaces be advisable? the roads are wet today so i could possibly practice that. i havent really practiced hard cornering at all yet tho so i dont really know the limits of my tires, let alone with wet roads.

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    My personal opinion is that you don't want your first race to be a crit in the rain, particularly if you never gone around a corner fast before.

    If you gotta do it, I'd say practicing your cornering, and practicing cornering on wet surfaces would be a good idea. And run a little lower pressure in your tires than normal.

    And watch for manhole covers, paint stripes, and gravel/sand. All of these become bigger problems in the rain

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    let some air out of your tires.

    apart from that, the only thing that counts is your bike handling skills (hope you've got 'em) and whether or not someone goes down in front of you.

    the good news is that road rash isn't as bad when it's wet.

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    If you are that nervous about wet-weather riding, perhaps racing on a wet road isn't a great idea. If you want a couple of tips...yes, practice today if the roads are wet, avoid painted lines (very slippery), and remember that most tires are made to perform in wet or dry conditions. What kind of tires are you using?

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    im using the michelin pro grips. when you guys talk about less air in the tires, are we talking like 10 psi? im also wondering if your bike gives any indication that it's going to slip from underneath u from cornering too hard before it happens. ill be doing a road race the day before this crit, and it wont be raining that day, so i guess ill have 1 race experience before attempting this.

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    similar discussion here.

    Soggy racers, I need a little help

    Regardless of weather forecast, for your own safety and for the safety of those around you, you should practice your cornering. Find an empty parking lot and practice going around a corner over and over again, think about the line youre taking into and out of the turn, how far you can lean your bike, and how far you can lean and still pedal without clipping the ground. Start slow to get the feel and speed it up as you practice. As you get more comfortable, think about maintaining a constant (fast) speed and line the entire way through the turn. I'm not great at cornering, but on a tight turn, I like to give a few, maybe 3, hard pedal strokes before the corner so that I can maintain a good speed through the turn to minimize effort coming out of the turn.

    Unfortunately, I can confirm that road rash isnt as bad when it's wet.
    Last edited by MDcatV; 02-20-07 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    so my first race ever (also the first collegiate race of the year out here in the midwest) will be next week, and for the day of the crit there is a forecast of rain. im terrified of crashing and was wondering if there were any suggestions for prepping for this rainy crit. would practicing doing turns on wet surfaces be advisable? the roads are wet today so i could possibly practice that. i havent really practiced hard cornering at all yet tho so i dont really know the limits of my tires, let alone with wet roads.

    Throw bananna peels on the nearest frozen pond. Thoroughly lube your ice skate blades with heavy grease. Drink 1.5 cases of Heineken. Now ice skate for 45 minutes. Repeat this 2x daily up until the race and you'll be ready.

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    thanks for the thread link MDcatV, some good tips.

    as for patentcad

    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad
    Throw bananna peels on the nearest frozen pond. Thoroughly lube your ice skate blades with heavy grease. Drink 1.5 cases of Heineken. Now ice skate for 45 minutes. Repeat this 2x daily up until the race and you'll be ready.
    ive already got the banana peels and grease covered. people will regret the day they raced against me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    people will regret the day they raced against me.
    if your 2nd race is a crit in the rain, then you're probably correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    im terrified of crashing
    Sadly, if you're terrified of crashing then you should probably avoid criteriums and racing in general. Did you happen to see the Tour of California yesterday?

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    And use your brakes even less than you would in a dry crit. Using the front brake at all in the corner entry is almost a gauranteed low side fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    if your 2nd race is a crit in the rain, then you're probably correct.
    i plan on taking the inside corners =)

    Quote Originally Posted by zimbo
    Sadly, if you're terrified of crashing then you should probably avoid criteriums and racing in general. Did you happen to see the Tour of California yesterday?

    --Steve
    yep i did, watched it live on the tour website. the riders reminded me of dominos. unfortunately however i wont be lucky enough to have a motorcycle with 5 extra wheels following me around at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    i plan on taking the inside corners =)
    Sweet, so when your wheels slip out from under you you can take out the whole field. Good thinkin, that way you'll have time to catch up and win
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    What I've been told (and I'm sure this will be up for debate...but that's why this is a message board eh?) is that when cornering in the rain you may want to lean your body a little more, to keep your bike upright with maximal rubber in contact with the road - whereas in dry conditions you want to keep your body more upright, and lean your bike to maintain your center of gravity over your frame, but still hang it out in the corner to maximize your speed.

    True? Not sure...but from watching lots of crits I'd say that more than a couple guys do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
    Sweet, so when your wheels slip out from under you you can take out the whole field. Good thinkin, that way you'll have time to catch up and win
    my thinking exactly lol

    all kidding aside, im wondering if it would be a good idea to just attack 5 laps before the finish and see what happens. at the very least i avoid the chaos created by all the other new (im assuming?) riders and wet pavement.

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    @stea1thviper that was my thread from the apple pie crit in rainy nor-cal. It is much more intimidating at first than is actually is during the race. Common sense takes over and everyone is a little more cautious to take turns a little less sharp and watch for paint and dots. I had the disadvantage of riding a course filled with potholes that the water covered over and couldn't see(pinch flat ended my day)

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    Be sure to scream 'INSIDE!!' when you're poaching those inside lines through the corners, particularly in the rain. That'll go over big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    = im also wondering if your bike gives any indication that it's going to slip from underneath u from cornering too hard before it happens.
    The back tire can slide, and still be catchable. If the front tire starts to slide, you're usually toast.

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    Leave the full carbon wheels at home.

    Need and aluminum braking surface and rubber brake shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
    What I've been told (and I'm sure this will be up for debate...but that's why this is a message board eh?) is that when cornering in the rain you may want to lean your body a little more, to keep your bike upright with maximal rubber in contact with the road - whereas in dry conditions you want to keep your body more upright, and lean your bike to maintain your center of gravity over your frame, but still hang it out in the corner to maximize your speed.

    True? Not sure...but from watching lots of crits I'd say that more than a couple guys do it.
    True.

    Also remember that wet rims make for ineffective braking. Plan accordingly.

    Most importantly IMO anyone who is truly "terrified of crashing" should not do crits, or race in the rain until the confidence factor improves. Crit racing is not for everyone. That fact doesn't make you any less of a man.

    Racing is supposed to be fun. If it becomes an experience in terror why put yourself through it?

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    Latest forecast says Cloudy (but no rain likely) and 40 saturday in Ohio. Sunday it might rain, but it's just a flat road race. No worries.

    I hate rainy crits, I was getting a little nervous myself... I did some cornering in a wet parking lot last night for practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    my thinking exactly lol

    all kidding aside, im wondering if it would be a good idea to just attack 5 laps before the finish and see what happens. at the very least i avoid the chaos created by all the other new (im assuming?) riders and wet pavement.
    1) The crit is saturday, the RR is sunday.
    2) Half of the guys out there will be 4/5 riders with some experience.
    3) IU will clog the roads, and make attacking impractical and damn near impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
    1) The crit is saturday, the RR is sunday.
    2) Half of the guys out there will be 4/5 riders with some experience.
    3) IU will clog the roads, and make attacking impractical and damn near impossible
    hm the RR being sunday is very good to know. and ive heard from my teammates how rediculously huge IU is. sigh. well i guess we'll see how things work out during the race.

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