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Old 03-01-07, 02:08 PM
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Best way to "freshen" the TSB?

So I'm rocking around a -30 TSB right now, and I'm wondering what's the best way to recover a bit. Will light riding (<60% FTP for, say, an hour) help me more than just not riding at all for a day or two?
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The best way to have your TSB go up is to take a full day off the bike. Whether or not that's the best for your legs depends on the rider. Most folks like to do a 30-minute spin for recovery.

Assuming you are racing on Sunday, I would take a day off the bike tomorrow. On Saturday I would ride no higher than endurance pace for an hour with two or three 2-3 minute low VO2Max bursts in the middle of the workout (little hills, perhaps) just to open up the legs.

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ok, under the adage of the only stupid questions is the one not asked..

Whats is this TSB of which you speak? How did you lose it, I know from ZImbo how to get it back.

I assume I haven't read the book or something, anyways....

What the heck is it?
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Originally Posted by bvfrompc
ok, under the adage of the only stupid questions is the one not asked..

Whats is this TSB of which you speak? How did you lose it, I know from ZImbo how to get it back.

I assume I haven't read the book or something, anyways....

What the heck is it?
Based on a quick google search, I think they must be talking about the Tennessee School for the Blind (www.tsb.k12tn.net/). Or maybe the Texas School of Business, where I imagine they teach Enron-style accounting?

Anywho - I'd like to know the answer to this question as well - is it from the Hunter & Allen Training with a Power Meter book?
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TSB = Training Stress Balance. A "scientific" measure of your overall potential for athletic performance, based on your fitness + freshness.
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How does one measure it?
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All you need to do is buy a power meter and CyclingPeaks WKO+ software...

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psh TSB. really now, what happened to the days where when u were tired u were tired, not a negative tsb.
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oh, i'm tired, but now I can brag to the world just how tired I am
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Rapid rise in TSB (ala day off) always ends up with crap performance for me. Steady gradual taper works better. I can flatten TSB with longer endurance level ride, and gradually let off the gas with an "opener" style sprint intervals with long endurance recovery. Either way, keeping endurance level (L2) rides truly in L2 means holding back a lot. But it pays off at the end of the taper.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
oh, i'm tired, but now I can brag to the world just how tired I am
lol.

personally i find after a day completely off from a particularly draining workout (or couple days of hard workouts) im in my best form. ive tried slow tapering and it just doesnt do it for me. staying off the bike on recovery days is also a good mental break for me. everyone's different.
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The thunderstorms that just rolled in will make staying off the bike tomorrow easier. Hopefully they'll leave Saturday morning, giving way to gorgeous weather for the Sunday race
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WTF is a TSB when it's at home????

sounds like w@nk to me....get out and train.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
So I'm rocking around a -30 TSB right now, and I'm wondering what's the best way to recover a bit. Will light riding (<60% FTP for, say, an hour) help me more than just not riding at all for a day or two?

With full day rests, due to being ill, here's how my TSB progressed into the positive:

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TSB? That's nothin'!!

Cycling Forums have had to put up an acronym glossary
https://www.cyclingforums.com/t386984.html


O...M..F...G!!


AC……………………ANAEROBIC CAPACITY
AEPF………………..AVERAGE EFFECTIVE PEDAL FORCE
AP……………………AVERAGE POWER
ATL………………….ACUTE TRAINING LOAD
AWC…………………ANAEROBIC WORK CAPACITY
C……………………..CADENCE
C……………………..CALORIES
Cd……………………COEFFICIENT OF DRAG
CL……………………CRANK LENGTH
CTL………………….CHRONIC TRAINING LOAD
CP……………………CRITICAL POWER
CPV………………….CIRCUMFERENTIAL PEDAL VELOCITY
CRITS……………….CRITERIUM (RACES)
FT…………………….FUNCTIONAL THRESHOLD
FTP…………………..FUNCTIONAL THRESHOLD POWER
HIT…………………..HIGH INTENSITY TRAINING
HR……………………HEART RATE
HRM…………………HEART RATE METER/MONITOR
HRMax………………HEART RATE MAXIMUM
IF…………………….INTENSITY FACTOR
J………………………JOULES
KJ…………………….KILOJOULES
KK……………………KURK KINETIC TRAINER
L1,L2 ETC.………….SPECIFIED LEVEL OF INTENSITY
LBS…………………..LOCAL BIKE SHOP
LSD…………………..LONG SLOW DISTANCE
LT…………………….LACTATE THRESHOLD
LTHR…………………LACTATE THRESHOLD HEART RATE
MAOD………………..MAXIMUM ACCUMULATED OXYGEN DEFICIT
MAP………………….MAXIMAL AEROBIC POWER
MLSS………………...MAXIMAL/MAXIMUM LACTATE STEADY STATE
MMP…………………MEAN MAXIMAL POWER
N……………………..NEWTONS
NMP…………………NEUROMUSCULAR POWER
NP……………………NORMALIZED POWER
OBLA………………..ONSET OF BLOOD LACTATE ACCUMULATION
PDC………………….POWER DISTRIBUTION CHART
PDF………………… POWER DURATION PROFILE
PMC.......................PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT CHART
PMs………………….POWER METERS
PP……………………POWER PROFILE/POWER PROFILING
PT……………………POWERTAP WIRELESS HUB SYSTEM
pVO2MAX………….POWER AT VO2MAX
QA……………………QUADRANT ANALYSIS
RHR………………….RESTING HEART RATE
RPE………………….RATE OF PERCEIVED EXERTION
RR……………………ROLLING RESISTANCE (TYRES/TIRES)
RR……………………ROAD RACE
SR……………………STAGE RACE
SRM…………………CRÈME DE LA CRÈME POWER METER
SST………………….SWEET SPOT TRAINING
TRIMPS…………….HEART RATE BASED TRAINING IMPULSE
TSB………………….TRAINING STRESS BALANCE
TT……………………TIME TRIAL
TSS………………….TRAINING STRESS SCORE
VI…………………….VARIABILITY INDEX
VO2Max…………….MAXIMAL OXYGEN UPTAKE/DELIVERY
W………………….....WATTS
W/kg………………….WATTS PER KILOGRAM
Z1,Z2 ETC…………..SPECIFIED LEVEL OF INTENSITY

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You forgot AVOMA.

air velocity out my arse.
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is that the biggest load of bollocks ever? The TSB, now THAT is funny !!!
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Originally Posted by classic1
You forgot AVOMA.

air velocity out my arse.
And PPS......pulls per second
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Originally Posted by Wilchemy
And PPS......pulls per second
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?
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Originally Posted by Gusboh
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?
Swing off so you are protecting the riders coming through.....so into the wind.
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Originally Posted by ed073
Swing off so you are protecting the riders coming through.....so into the wind.
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Originally Posted by climbo
is that the biggest load of bollocks ever? The TSB, now THAT is funny !!!
HIT = High Intensity training?


I thought a HIT is what you took off a crack pipe?

Or what people don't do to Tammy Thomas
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Originally Posted by Gusboh
My personal favourite.

Now, i've forgotten the rule... Do you pull off into the wind or away from it?
Hmm...don't know about the wind direction but I thought the rule was: "hidden away on your own, while listening very carefully"
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Originally Posted by Snicklefritz
HIT = High Intensity training?


I thought a HIT is what you took off a crack pipe?

Or what people don't do to Tammy Thomas
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TSB = Transsexual Bicyclist?
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